What has almost 200 years of trying to set dates or time periods from Bible

Danman1

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prophecies proved beyond any doubt? Has anyone, or religious group, in the last 200 years set dates and been correct in their predictions?

There really is only two religions remaining that are claiming their bible dates are correct. Jehovah's Witnesses and Harold Camping's group.

Jehovah's Witnesses hang their entire doctrine on a bible prophecy in Daniel, which by using bible numerology they claim proves that Jesus began ruling in the year 1914.

Harold Camping claims that the rapture and the end will come in October 21, 2011.

How many more failed predictions do we need to pass judgment on them as being outright 'false prophets'?
@Ansan...Amazing isn't it?
Modern jw know very little about the failed predictions of their approved and sanctified by Jesus in 1919 organization. They preach the years 1914 and 1919 as special and important, yet they do not know or care little about learning what they predicted as respects those years. They simply do not care enough to check it out. There is one new poster here on YA that claims to be a jw, yet does in fact know how much the organization has participated in false prophecy.
 
I do you one better.


Religion has had a couple of millennia to make a case for its fundamental concepts: the existence of the supernatural, the existence of deities, the effectiveness of priestly intermediaries, etc. It has failed. It does not provide support in the form of evidence or logical consistency; it also fails to show any pragmatic utility. Religion never does what it claims to do. At what point do we learn from experience and simply reject the whole worthless mess out of hand? The abstract possibility that the god-wallopers will finally come up with a tiny scrap of evidence for their outrageous beliefs in the coming eon is not enough to win it credibility as a reasonable contender, either; you might just as well speculate that archaeologists could unearth artifacts from Middle Earth, or astronomers observing a galaxy far, far away will discover The Force. There is no cause to expect fictions and fantasies to manifest themselves as actual realities.
Religion plays Calvinball. There are no rules except what they make up as they go. You might think that maybe you ought to concede that they could get a score of 13 and beat your 12…but they are already convinced that their Q trumps your puny pair of digits. And if they get a score of Oatmeal-Sofa, they'll announce victory. Heck, if they somehow end up in the realm of numbers with you and get a 7, they'll declare that they win because they've got a Mersenne prime and we don't. Or because it's like a golf score. The mistake is to play the game in the expectation that the other side has the same respect for evidence that we do, or that evidence even matters.

http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2011/03/calvinball_no_more.php
 
It proves that the false prophets, and their followers, have either ignored or disbelieved the apostle Paul's warning in the first century:

"Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him, we ask you, brothers, not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by some prophecy, report or letter supposed to have come from us, saying that the day of the Lord has already come. Don't let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshipped, so that he sets himself up in God's temple, proclaiming himself to be God." (2 Thessalonians 2:1-4)

You would think that the only time to attempt to anticipate the imminent appearance of Christ would be when this 'man of lawlessness' had been clearly identified. But no - those false prophets concentrate on Daniel's prophecies (sealed up until the time of the end, mark you), claiming the time has now come to understand them, and that only they have been granted God's approval to see what they really mean.

Gullibility comes when people accept the claims of individuals or small groups that they are God's mouth-piece on earth in the last days: that correct understanding has been granted to them, and them alone. Beyond doubt, there are a few million people in each generation who learn nothing from previous generations that fell into the prophetic interpretation trap. This proves the need to educate Christians in the history of such impertinent groups. Their track records should be exposed. As you say, it is predominantly the JWs (since the late 1800s) and newer American fringe groups that keep repeating those spiritual mistakes of history.

Edit - I've just read the answer above mine and I can't believe it! Does this person know nothing of her JW religion's history of failed statements about what certain dates would mark, or bring? 1874 Jesus' 2nd return; before 1914 the JW saints would be glorified up into heaven; 1914 the end of Armageddon; 1914 the start of Armageddon; 1914 Jesus' 2nd presence; 1918 Armageddon to start; 1925 the OT saints to appear on earth; 1975 marked the end of 6,000 years of man's existence on earth so the millennium ought to start around then (meaning Armageddon would have finished.)
 
Only God knows the time. Matthew 24:36 ANYONE else claiming to know is a false prophet, and should be ignored.
 
Huh?

Harold Camping made a false prediction that obviously didn't come true. Thanks to Harold Camping's false prediction, he makes the bible look bad. Jehovah's Witnesses never made a false prediction like Harold Camping. We follow Jehovah God's inspired word of the bible and in the bible it clearly says we do not know when the last day is...

Matthew 24:
36 “Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father.

Since we go by Jehovah God's inspired word of the bible, how could Jehovah's Witnesses make a false prediction like Harold Camping's if it says in the bible that only Jehovah God knows when the last day is going to be?
 
The overwhelming majority of Christian churches have never set dates - including Catholics and Protestants, at least that I know of. Jesus said no man knows the date or hour and I believe (though some don't) that means the month and the year too.

Jay above really amuses me. He acts like people who by faith believe in a Higher Power are imbiciles, while he sits back with absolutely no proof whatsoever of his faith in atheism. Maybe he can explain abiogenesis and dna and how it came to be randomly. If dna were put into encyclopedia form, it would fill 1,000,000 pages with detailed pertinent information, all necessary. Yet he has no problem dismissing facts like these to stick to his faith of atheism against all evidence and logic.
 
A real Christian would not try to find out the time of the end because Jesus said that no one would know the day or hour NO ONE. Therefore anyone proclaiming themselves Christian and putting out there to the world the day of the end is only putting God up for scrutiny and is not a real Christian. The world will know when the end is coming even un believers will feel that something is not right and hopefully many will repent. The end times will be very obvious and we have not even began yet, it is only JUST starting, but as for the actual date and day no one will know because Jesus said himself that no one would know and his word is truth.
 
Camping is just going to keep revising upward his prediction until he finally dies. He's never, ever going to admit he was wrong.
 
Apparently these idiots don't know that to calculate anything, one must first start with a valid premise and at least one valid number. Basing a calculation on nothing but ancient mythology is ridiculous.
 
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