Prophecy fulfilled after 65 years?

[zenmeister]

The Socialist Party candidate for President of the US, Norman Thomas, said this in a 1944 speech: "The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of "liberalism," they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened."

 

[ziggurat4u]

not too late to stop it before it happens. Most americans today are so uneducated (especially the ones with degrees from liberal ivy league colleges) that you can directly call it socialism and they'd still not get the hint or have a clue.

for those who don't understand history the same will be foolish enough to repeat it. most americans today have no idea how many millions starved in Russia under Lenin's socialist agenda in a few short years

 

[Mike]

We will know that the socialists won when we live under a dictatorship. For now there is still hope.

 

[Sean]

Close, but I think the people have wised up to it

 

[Zeelster]

IMHO the real problem isn't socialism per se. It's big government. You can have a big government with massive control over people that isn't socialistic. Fascism anyone? Democracy paid for by lobbyists anyone?

 

[GMAN]

Thumper D, Ziggurat4U, Some Call Me Tim and Sean, have it...

The founders of the original international banking partnership, before it became a cartel last century, were a committed Communist and a Fabian Socialist. The cartel over the last 200 or so years has more closely embraced the tach of Fabian (socialistic) gradualism; in the last 44 or so years it has deceptively added hybrids of what is most convenient for their agenda of complete world domination: elements of hideously mutated capitalism, oligarchic fascism/nationalism, communism & socialism have replaced U.S. Constitutional provisions...and here we are today.

The prophecy carries enough validity & truth, though perhaps 'technically text-book defined incorrect', to apply for the purpose of what I am about to declare:

As I write this, there are approximately 100,000,000 very aware Americans. Very aware to the fact that their "President", the POTUS citizenship eligibility validation authorities, members of Congress & a litany of "trusted" others have essentially committed TREASON.

If not for these (we) fighting mad U.S. citizens, the prophecy would indeed come to pass. The cartel & their complicit tool, Obama, underestimated the American sense of right & wrong. It appears the cartel has exposed their hand too soon. And importantly, W didn't cover his tracks very well...Americans are wary & leery...oh, & we're pissed...have you gone on to any armed forces social chat rooms in the last year? In the last 30 days? If I was the cartel, & all their accomplices (WE KNOW WHO YOU ARE), I would be very, very worried. THE CONSTITUTION, PATIENCE & BLINDING FORCE will prevail.

And the blind libs & the look-the-other-way conservatives will be saved by those who remained vigilant.

 

[EnglishmaninKentucky]

Which just goes to show how devious Liberal actually are.

 

[resistance]

I can't help but think of that Russian professor who predicted the U.S. would break up into pieces. There are so many people that want to take the country down a road that so many other people don't want to go down. It makes me think that what he said may be inevitable.

 

[plezurgui]

Not quite there yet, but getting real close. I fear that Obama will start a class war. He is working on it.

 

[RJ]

Maybe it is not too late.

 

[open4one]

Those of us in the Libertarian Party know how it happened.

 

[SilverPhoenix]

There are those who just fight for power. And then there are those who help fight to protect the people.


Patience is a virtue.

 

[reporter]

Just one problem with your hypothesis. There hasn't been a liberal president in 40 years, and he wasted his goodwill on a stupid war against people who were minding their own business, unlike treasonous conservatives right here at home.

 

[ThumperDoodle]

No. Obama is not a socialist. Even McCain said he wasn't a socialist.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/30/obama-not-a-socialist-mcc_n_139294.html
The funny thing is, of course, that socialists know that Barack Obama is not one of us. Not only is he not a socialist, he may in fact not even be a liberal. Socialists understand him more as a hedge-fund Democrat -- one of a generation of neoliberal politicians firmly committed to free-market policies.

The first clear indication that Obama is not, in fact, a socialist, is the way his administration is avoiding structural changes to the financial system. Nationalization is simply not in the playbook of Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner and his team. They favor costly, temporary measures that can easily be dismantled should the economy stabilize. Socialists support nationalization and see it as a means of creating a banking system that acts like a highly regulated public utility. The banks would then cease to be sinkholes for public funds or financial versions of casinos and would become essential to reenergizing productive sectors of the economy.

The same holds true for health care. A national health insurance system as embodied in the single-payer health plan reintroduced in legislation this year by Rep. John Conyers Jr. (D-Mich.), makes perfect sense to us. That bill would provide comprehensive coverage, offer a full range of choice of doctors and services and eliminate the primary cause of personal bankruptcy -- health-care bills. Obama's plan would do the opposite. By mandating that every person be insured, ObamaCare would give private health insurance companies license to systematically underinsure policyholders while cashing in on the moral currency of universal coverage. If Obama is a socialist, then on health care, he's doing a fairly good job of concealing it.

Issues of war and peace further weaken the commander in chief's socialist credentials. Obama announced that all U.S. combat brigades will be removed from Iraq by August 2010, but he still intends to leave as many as 50,000 troops in Iraq and wishes to expand the war in Afghanistan and Pakistan. A socialist foreign policy would call for the immediate removal of all troops. It would seek to follow the proposal made recently by an Afghan parliamentarian, which called for the United States to send 30,000 scholars or engineers instead of more fighting forces.

Yet the president remains "the world's best salesman of socialism," according to Republican Sen. Jim DeMint of South Carolina. DeMint encouraged supporters "to take to the streets to stop America's slide into socialism." Despite the fact that billions of dollars of public wealth are being transferred to private corporations, Huckabee still felt confident in proposing that "Lenin and Stalin would love" Obama's bank bailout plan.

Huckabee is clearly no socialist scholar, and I doubt that any of Obama's policies will someday appear in the annals of socialist history. The president has, however, been assigned the unenviable task of salvaging a capitalist system intent on devouring itself. The question is whether he can do so without addressing the deep inequalities that have become fundamental features of American society. So, President Obama, what I want to know is this: Can you lend legitimacy to a society in which 5 percent of the population controls 85 percent of the wealth? Can you sell a health-care reform package that will only end up enriching a private health insurance industry? Will you continue to favor military spending over infrastructure development and social services?

My guess is that the president will avoid these questions, further confirming that he is not a socialist except, perhaps, in the imaginations of an odd assortment of conservatives. Yet as the unemployment lines grow longer, the food pantries emptier and health care scarcer, socialism may be poised for a comeback in America. The doors of our "socialist cubby-hole" are open to anyone, including Obama. I encourage him to stop by for one of our monthly membership meetings. Be sure to arrive early to get a seat -- we're more popular than ever lately.

 

[verticalanddangerous]

Sometimes they call it the 'Progressive movement'!

It all smells the same!