Where can I buy djarum clove cigarettes now that they're banned by the FDA?
PurEcstasy
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it depends on what type of cloves you smoke. i personally smoke Djarum Splash which is part of Djarum's international brand of products as oppose to their Indonesia product line. (Welcome to Djarum if you want more specific info)
TO GET CLOVE CIGS NOW THAT THIS STUPID RETARDED BAN HAS BEEN OFFICIALLY PASSED:
1. Djarum now has Djarum Little Cigars available for their international brands, ie blacks, spash, bali hai, etc. they have less in a pack and i'm told they have a slighty different taste that appears to be from the wrapper. i have no personally tried these as I just found out how djarum got slightly around the ban with this cigar thing and haven't gotten to a smoke shop to pick them up.
2. you can buy them on ebay but most of them are super uber expensive..i'm talking 20+bucks for1 pack...crazy ridiculous. i've been selling mine for 11 bucks a pack on there which is only 1.50 bucks more than i used to pay for them in my town (near nyc, in nyc they easily sold for 11-12 bucks BEFORE the ban)
3. there ARE international clove cig sellers online however through searching dozens of them i've not found ANY that offer the international brands such as Splash and Bali Hai (I AM A SPLASH SMOKER) they do have the blacks, specials, supers, menthol, etc. but also keep this in mind when ordering internationally for cigarettes, less cigs per pack sometimes and less packs per cartoon. so do your research before purchasing. most sites tell you straight out but some don't.
HOPE SOME OF THIS INFO HELPS. SORRY IF SOME OF IT IS A BIG INACCURATE, I ALWAYS SAY RESEARCH STUFF ON YOUR OWN DON'T TAKE SOMEONE'S WORD FOR IT. MOST. I went through a boatload of websites and this info is a culmination of all those sites and info.
feel free to pm me if anything i posted is unclear
TO GET CLOVE CIGS NOW THAT THIS STUPID RETARDED BAN HAS BEEN OFFICIALLY PASSED:
1. Djarum now has Djarum Little Cigars available for their international brands, ie blacks, spash, bali hai, etc. they have less in a pack and i'm told they have a slighty different taste that appears to be from the wrapper. i have no personally tried these as I just found out how djarum got slightly around the ban with this cigar thing and haven't gotten to a smoke shop to pick them up.
2. you can buy them on ebay but most of them are super uber expensive..i'm talking 20+bucks for1 pack...crazy ridiculous. i've been selling mine for 11 bucks a pack on there which is only 1.50 bucks more than i used to pay for them in my town (near nyc, in nyc they easily sold for 11-12 bucks BEFORE the ban)
3. there ARE international clove cig sellers online however through searching dozens of them i've not found ANY that offer the international brands such as Splash and Bali Hai (I AM A SPLASH SMOKER) they do have the blacks, specials, supers, menthol, etc. but also keep this in mind when ordering internationally for cigarettes, less cigs per pack sometimes and less packs per cartoon. so do your research before purchasing. most sites tell you straight out but some don't.
HOPE SOME OF THIS INFO HELPS. SORRY IF SOME OF IT IS A BIG INACCURATE, I ALWAYS SAY RESEARCH STUFF ON YOUR OWN DON'T TAKE SOMEONE'S WORD FOR IT. MOST. I went through a boatload of websites and this info is a culmination of all those sites and info.
feel free to pm me if anything i posted is unclear
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The post above from PurEcstacy is correct about everything, except they left out 1 important point that I am personally experiencing.
When you purchase Clove Cigarettes from an international website, there is always a risk that US customs will nab it before it ever makes it to you. I don't see how they could actually keep it for any extended period of time (because it's not illegal to purchase clove cigarettes from an international website, it is only illegal to sell them here in the U.S.), but they can sure make it difficult for you to get them in a timely manner.
The following is straight from US customs home page in reference to holding an item:
"If Customs has detained your package for some reason - for example, lack of a proper invoice, bill of sale, or other documentation, a possible trademark violation, or if the package requires a formal entry, the Customs International Mail Branch holding it will notify you of the reason for detention (in writing) and how you can get it released. When you have fulfilled the requirements necessary to effect release, Customs will clear the package, note how much duty is owed, and return it to the Postal Service for delivery. Usually, you will receive notification in a matter of days, but it can take as long as 30-45 days."
Any luck on finding splash for sale online?
When you purchase Clove Cigarettes from an international website, there is always a risk that US customs will nab it before it ever makes it to you. I don't see how they could actually keep it for any extended period of time (because it's not illegal to purchase clove cigarettes from an international website, it is only illegal to sell them here in the U.S.), but they can sure make it difficult for you to get them in a timely manner.
The following is straight from US customs home page in reference to holding an item:
"If Customs has detained your package for some reason - for example, lack of a proper invoice, bill of sale, or other documentation, a possible trademark violation, or if the package requires a formal entry, the Customs International Mail Branch holding it will notify you of the reason for detention (in writing) and how you can get it released. When you have fulfilled the requirements necessary to effect release, Customs will clear the package, note how much duty is owed, and return it to the Postal Service for delivery. Usually, you will receive notification in a matter of days, but it can take as long as 30-45 days."
Any luck on finding splash for sale online?
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Unfortunately, the reason that US Customs can keep the package is simply about money. Even worse, they were able to do this before the ban was enacted in September.
When retail tobacconists ordered these tasty cigarettes, they had to pay an import tax which would then allow the package to go through customs. If an individual were to have been purchased directly from Indonesia, he/she would have avoided the import tax; thus, "allowing" customs to confiscate the shipment and send that lovely note reminding you that they can tax anything they want and you can't do anything about it, but frame that crappy piece of paper.
As for the new clove cigars, I enjoyed the Bali Hai cigarettes and quickly bought up what little stock the local cigar stores carried before the ban. I recently ran out... I went to purchase the new Bali Hai cigars to no avail; at that time they only carried the Splash cigars (I did smoke the Splash cigarettes when I wasn't able to purchase the Bali Hais before the ban). Let me tell you, it was not the same. It seemed a bit harsher and tasted more of the wrapper then the actual tobacco. I think over time, it won't seem as harsh. However it does beat regular cigarettes any day of the week.
I'm still in hopes and prayers that I get my hands on some Bali Hais soon.
I have checked out Famous Smoke Shop online and they do offer Djarum cigars. I do know of the company because they are about an hour and a half away. And I have heard that they do ship in a timely fashion 100% of the time. (I know this is important to not get screwed by the government and then the company who you paid money to and hope to get your product from).
Good Luck All!
When retail tobacconists ordered these tasty cigarettes, they had to pay an import tax which would then allow the package to go through customs. If an individual were to have been purchased directly from Indonesia, he/she would have avoided the import tax; thus, "allowing" customs to confiscate the shipment and send that lovely note reminding you that they can tax anything they want and you can't do anything about it, but frame that crappy piece of paper.
As for the new clove cigars, I enjoyed the Bali Hai cigarettes and quickly bought up what little stock the local cigar stores carried before the ban. I recently ran out... I went to purchase the new Bali Hai cigars to no avail; at that time they only carried the Splash cigars (I did smoke the Splash cigarettes when I wasn't able to purchase the Bali Hais before the ban). Let me tell you, it was not the same. It seemed a bit harsher and tasted more of the wrapper then the actual tobacco. I think over time, it won't seem as harsh. However it does beat regular cigarettes any day of the week.
I'm still in hopes and prayers that I get my hands on some Bali Hais soon.
I have checked out Famous Smoke Shop online and they do offer Djarum cigars. I do know of the company because they are about an hour and a half away. And I have heard that they do ship in a timely fashion 100% of the time. (I know this is important to not get screwed by the government and then the company who you paid money to and hope to get your product from).
Good Luck All!
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I enjoy the splash myself and current have friends in other countries looking to have them mailed and have run across that on the nov 16 it will be illeagal to have any tobacco mailed
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I have bought Djarum Special, Djarum Black, and Djarum Black-Vanilla mini cigars from my local smoke shop. Most places that used to carry Djarums don't even know about the mini cigars.
They are very close to the original kreteks in flavor, only 12 to a box, a little cheaper than the cigarettes were, and smoke a little slower (thicker than a regular kretek).
If you can't find them, look for cigar and smoke shops nearby.
I just stopped smoking (actually switched to an e-cigarette) 2 weeks ago so I no longer need to jump through the hoops.
They are very close to the original kreteks in flavor, only 12 to a box, a little cheaper than the cigarettes were, and smoke a little slower (thicker than a regular kretek).
If you can't find them, look for cigar and smoke shops nearby.
I just stopped smoking (actually switched to an e-cigarette) 2 weeks ago so I no longer need to jump through the hoops.
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I myself do collect Djarum Cigarettes of 16 in pack which banned by FDA, I want to buy Djarum Bali Hai (2 diff), Djarum Vanilla, Light, Special, etc. Recently I found those Djarum Cigarette listed on eBay but has been removed without a real reasons. Those cigarettes are sold in USA, and I never see it in Indonesia. So where I could buy it ?
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my e-mail address : [email protected]
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Banned Djarums
Email me if you are looking for where to get the banned Djarum Cloves.
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Email me if you are looking for where to get the banned Djarum Cloves.
[email protected]
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looking for pre ban Djarums???
If anyone is looking for pre ban Djarums I have a few cartons left.
Blacks, Specials, Lights, Menthol, Cherry, Bali Hai, ETC
Email me at [email protected] and I can get some to you. Thanks
If anyone is looking for pre ban Djarums I have a few cartons left.
Blacks, Specials, Lights, Menthol, Cherry, Bali Hai, ETC
Email me at [email protected] and I can get some to you. Thanks
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The Marlboro Man is Dead
I have purchased the Djarum Black by the carton from clovecigarettestore.com before the ban was enacted by our glorious leader. I never had any problems getting them. I recently placed another order and found this post because I was looking for information on whether they would be confiscated by customs because of the new laws.
From what I understand, it is still legal to purchase cloves online and have them mailed to you. The worst that customs can do is make you pay taxes on them to get tehm released. However, thanks to our pals at Altria/Phillip Morris, there is an additional bill being proposed which would make it illegal to send any tobacco products through the mail/FedEx/UPS, etc..
If you feel this might violate your freedoms somehow, I would encourage you to contact your congress-person. The bill is called the PACT Act, senate bill 1147 (google it) which has already passed the House of Representatives and the Senate Judiciary Committee. Once it passes the house and the president signs it, you will be buying all your tobacco over the counter. Thanks Marlboro
Call your Congress-person at 1-800-828-0498 if you really want to make a difference.
I have purchased the Djarum Black by the carton from clovecigarettestore.com before the ban was enacted by our glorious leader. I never had any problems getting them. I recently placed another order and found this post because I was looking for information on whether they would be confiscated by customs because of the new laws.
From what I understand, it is still legal to purchase cloves online and have them mailed to you. The worst that customs can do is make you pay taxes on them to get tehm released. However, thanks to our pals at Altria/Phillip Morris, there is an additional bill being proposed which would make it illegal to send any tobacco products through the mail/FedEx/UPS, etc..
If you feel this might violate your freedoms somehow, I would encourage you to contact your congress-person. The bill is called the PACT Act, senate bill 1147 (google it) which has already passed the House of Representatives and the Senate Judiciary Committee. Once it passes the house and the president signs it, you will be buying all your tobacco over the counter. Thanks Marlboro
Call your Congress-person at 1-800-828-0498 if you really want to make a difference.
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Hello Kristina,
How is the other Djarum Cigarettes that you promised to get it for me ?
I could not find anything about Djarum cigarettes on eBay anymore, mostly are removed and blocked by the eBay.
Please note that I need those cigarette packs for my personal collection only.
Best regards,
FREDDY ( [email protected] )
TO GET CLOVE CIGS NOW THAT THIS STUPID RETARDED BAN HAS BEEN OFFICIALLY PASSED:
1. Djarum now has Djarum Little Cigars available for their international brands, ie blacks, spash, bali hai, etc. they have less in a pack and i'm told they have a slighty different taste that appears to be from the wrapper. i have no personally tried these as I just found out how djarum got slightly around the ban with this cigar thing and haven't gotten to a smoke shop to pick them up.
2. you can buy them on ebay but most of them are super uber expensive..i'm talking 20+bucks for1 pack...crazy ridiculous. i've been selling mine for 11 bucks a pack on there which is only 1.50 bucks more than i used to pay for them in my town (near nyc, in nyc they easily sold for 11-12 bucks BEFORE the ban)
3. there ARE international clove cig sellers online however through searching dozens of them i've not found ANY that offer the international brands such as Splash and Bali Hai (I AM A SPLASH SMOKER) they do have the blacks, specials, supers, menthol, etc. but also keep this in mind when ordering internationally for cigarettes, less cigs per pack sometimes and less packs per cartoon. so do your research before purchasing. most sites tell you straight out but some don't.
HOPE SOME OF THIS INFO HELPS. SORRY IF SOME OF IT IS A BIG INACCURATE, I ALWAYS SAY RESEARCH STUFF ON YOUR OWN DON'T TAKE SOMEONE'S WORD FOR IT. MOST. I went through a boatload of websites and this info is a culmination of all those sites and info.
feel free to pm me if anything i posted is unclear[/QUOTE]
How is the other Djarum Cigarettes that you promised to get it for me ?
I could not find anything about Djarum cigarettes on eBay anymore, mostly are removed and blocked by the eBay.
Please note that I need those cigarette packs for my personal collection only.
Best regards,
FREDDY ( [email protected] )
TO GET CLOVE CIGS NOW THAT THIS STUPID RETARDED BAN HAS BEEN OFFICIALLY PASSED:
1. Djarum now has Djarum Little Cigars available for their international brands, ie blacks, spash, bali hai, etc. they have less in a pack and i'm told they have a slighty different taste that appears to be from the wrapper. i have no personally tried these as I just found out how djarum got slightly around the ban with this cigar thing and haven't gotten to a smoke shop to pick them up.
2. you can buy them on ebay but most of them are super uber expensive..i'm talking 20+bucks for1 pack...crazy ridiculous. i've been selling mine for 11 bucks a pack on there which is only 1.50 bucks more than i used to pay for them in my town (near nyc, in nyc they easily sold for 11-12 bucks BEFORE the ban)
3. there ARE international clove cig sellers online however through searching dozens of them i've not found ANY that offer the international brands such as Splash and Bali Hai (I AM A SPLASH SMOKER) they do have the blacks, specials, supers, menthol, etc. but also keep this in mind when ordering internationally for cigarettes, less cigs per pack sometimes and less packs per cartoon. so do your research before purchasing. most sites tell you straight out but some don't.
HOPE SOME OF THIS INFO HELPS. SORRY IF SOME OF IT IS A BIG INACCURATE, I ALWAYS SAY RESEARCH STUFF ON YOUR OWN DON'T TAKE SOMEONE'S WORD FOR IT. MOST. I went through a boatload of websites and this info is a culmination of all those sites and info.
feel free to pm me if anything i posted is unclear[/QUOTE]
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Buying cloves from Indonesia
I have purchased clove cigarettes from Indonesian Clove Cigarettes * Cheap Kretek Cigarettes online store with no problem with customs or quality. He sends exactly what you order. My order was received within one week.
Indonesia to USA
I have purchased clove cigarettes from Indonesian Clove Cigarettes * Cheap Kretek Cigarettes online store with no problem with customs or quality. He sends exactly what you order. My order was received within one week.
Indonesia to USA
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Hello Edward,
You offered about 6 different Djarum Cigarette packs, but actually that you only 4 items to offer, I expect you could assist me to supply it for me, just for Collection not for consumption and you may send it to my daughter's address in USA if you don't want to send outside USA.
You offered about 6 different Djarum Cigarette packs, but actually that you only 4 items to offer, I expect you could assist me to supply it for me, just for Collection not for consumption and you may send it to my daughter's address in USA if you don't want to send outside USA.
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Djarum Filter Cigars Bali Hai - djabali here is a link for the NEW Bali Hai... i ordered a pack to test them out...
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help about my bali hai
my name is Peggy. i would like to find out how to purchase preban djarum bali hai. i can't stand this stupid ban and the new ciggies are ok, but they aren't my REAL bali's. i miss them. can you help? ps: i live in Ohio, preschool teacher. i'd be thrilled to have even one more real bali. thanks. my email is [email protected]
my name is Peggy. i would like to find out how to purchase preban djarum bali hai. i can't stand this stupid ban and the new ciggies are ok, but they aren't my REAL bali's. i miss them. can you help? ps: i live in Ohio, preschool teacher. i'd be thrilled to have even one more real bali. thanks. my email is [email protected]
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I just bought a carton of Djarum Cloves, Black, online. I ordered them Dec. 27th and they arrived this morning! Same great Djarum Cloves I've been use to for the last 10 years! If you would like the info...email me and I can give you the same website I ordered from...directly from Indonesia! email me ([email protected])
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I have been trying SO SO SO SO SO ! hard to get just ONE! pack of blacks for my 21st birthday, And I cannot get them, i have offered to paypal the money to people,,...everything, Nothing left on Ebay. and one guy I found on CL will not answer me....I am in Baltimore MD (Which stupid friggin Maryland has always had them illegal WHICH IS DUMB! not really sure why we cannot smoke Cigs that we want..... Its not weed.. they do not get you high. and I cannot smoke a regular cig to save my life... i get head aches and sick
Any ways if anyone can help me out to get even just ONE! pack of those tasty Blacks for my birthday (by next Saturday January 16th) Please email me
[email protected]
Thank you!
Shea
Any ways if anyone can help me out to get even just ONE! pack of those tasty Blacks for my birthday (by next Saturday January 16th) Please email me
[email protected]
Thank you!
Shea
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Wtf!?
CHRIST! I can't get a straight answer anywhere. Will customs cofiscate Cloves bought overseas that are shipped to the united states? I have heard others are getting them just fine, and I have read the actual ban, but it is very vague. I personally don't want to waste 30-40 bucks if It will not pass customs. Kinda retarted for FDA to ban cigarettes with an EXTREMELY low nicotine and tar count. Even more so that US cigarettes like camel or marlboro have like triple the nicotine and tar plus all the "unknown" crap they put in them.
CHRIST! I can't get a straight answer anywhere. Will customs cofiscate Cloves bought overseas that are shipped to the united states? I have heard others are getting them just fine, and I have read the actual ban, but it is very vague. I personally don't want to waste 30-40 bucks if It will not pass customs. Kinda retarted for FDA to ban cigarettes with an EXTREMELY low nicotine and tar count. Even more so that US cigarettes like camel or marlboro have like triple the nicotine and tar plus all the "unknown" crap they put in them.
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I had no problems getting my cloves through customs after the ban. The clove ban itself only bans the sale of cloves within the US; it is still legal to purchase them outside of the US and it is still legal to have them shipped into the US.
I also e-mailed the Djarum website earlier today asking if they plan on selling International Brands direct now that it is nearly impossible for those of us in the US to get them, but now that I think about it, they'll probably just pitch the mini-cigars to me. I'll make sure to post again if they say otherwise.
I also e-mailed the Djarum website earlier today asking if they plan on selling International Brands direct now that it is nearly impossible for those of us in the US to get them, but now that I think about it, they'll probably just pitch the mini-cigars to me. I'll make sure to post again if they say otherwise.