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    Senior Member eninn's Avatar
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    most Christians who throw away the old testament easily, if a Muslim rejects a single verse in the Quran he becomes a kafir (non-Muslim).

    Problem is most don't follow the 10 commandments, especially today. I have a Christian co-worker who loves to tell me the religion is evil. But I've caught him in multiple lies, seen him steal from the company and he cheats on his wife.

    People can reject it all the way to the grave but the One who sent the Torah, Injeel and Quran is the same deity. The God of Abraham. Of course you are gonna find similar rules, at-least with what man has not managed to edit.

    Why did God send prophets such as Moses, Jesus and Muhammad, peace be upon them?

    To warn us against following the polytheists and atheists who are corrupt in the land and those who doubt the path and the straight path of God, who cares about the interest of the whole society.

    Freedom in thinking and creativity does not mean deviating from God’s commandments, and every person does what he wants according to his personal whims, even if the person harms himself or others.

    Because in this case, the criteria for good and bad will differ from one person to another
    What seems true to you will seem incorrect to another person because the constant criterion is personal interest only

    Homosexuality is a deviation and destruction of offspring in the land and has serious medical damage to both parties

    But for some people, homeopathy is harmless

    And agree his personal interest

    is actually the logic behind why Catholics believe in a realm or state called "Limbo", because of infants dying they are not pure enough to enter into heaven because of inheriting Original Sin, so they are in this in-between state until the day of judgement. Purgatory is similar but doesn't have the same pre-mortal aspects to it.

    We on the other hand believe in Fitrah, that the soul is created pure and that it is the interaction with sin in the world, and temptations of Shaitan (Satan) that makes it needing of repentance - which is also why God sends Prophets and messengers to give us the map of salvation.
    We do believe in an intermediate state, called Barzakh, but it doesn't function like the intermediate states in Christian theology.
    In Islamic theology, a soul is accountable only for it's own actions, whether it is good or bad to itself or towards others.
    A large number of Filipino soldiers pronounce the Shahada and convert to Islam
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    Bible verses that deny unconditional love

    Indeed, some among Christians believe that their "All-Love" God does not allow His Creatures to be damned for eternal hell. For these people, this punishment would be unfair because, always according to them, why punish eternally a fault which is not?
    As paradoxical as it may seem, the God-Love of Christians: The Jesus of the NT, speaks of hell many times more than in all of A.T. Let us see the verses in question:

    33Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell? "(Matthew 23.33)

    41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. ”(Matthew 25,41)

    22 But I tell you that anyone who is angry with a brother or sister[a] will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to a brother or sister, ‘Raca,’[c] is answerable to the court. And anyone who says, ‘You fool!’ will be in danger of the fire of hell.”(Matthew 5,22)

    29 If your right eye causes you to stumble, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. 30 And if your right hand causes you to stumble, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to go into hell.
    "(Matthew 5,29-30)

    All of these verses make it clear that an everlasting and painful retribution awaits unbelievers in a place where there will be gnashing of teeth and weeping. It would be better to cut off eyes, hands or feet than to have to undergo this terrible punishment intended for the ungodly.

    As we see, eternal hell is a reality in the Bible. Those who dispute this reality have only to contradict us on the matter and surely they will never succeed. The verses are explicit on the matter. Now we can ask ourselves several remarks:

    1) the NT Jesus who is a god of love speaks of eternal hell in the N.T. much more than in the A.T. (notion almost unknown by the way!)

    2) the wicked will suffer an eternal and exemplary punishment for their misdeeds

    3) how does this very particular category of Christians reconcile their conception of Love with the eternal punishment of hell?

    4) Christians are hypocrites when they tell us the "good news" of the Gospel because there is also very, very bad news in the texts for non-believers

    Prabhakaran Asks Dr Zakir, "Will Non Muslims go to Heaven or Hell?"

    Will Good Righteous Non-Muslims like Mother Teresa go to Hell? - Dr Zakir Naik

    Q&A: Why Would God Create Us to Go To Hell? | Dr. Shabir Ally

    دينكم ليس ضد العنصرية! محمد حجاب في حوار مع مسيحي

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