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    الرد على المبشّرين النصارى - عدنان رشيد

    أقوى محاضرة لذاكر نايك 2021

    الشهود العيان للصلب بين غموض الكتاب المقدس ووضوح القرآن

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    الحلقة 3 برنامج ( #وياكم3​ ) محمد العوضي ( لقاء مع الأمريكي خالد ياسين )

    فتاة بريطانيا تسأل عن الإسلام ثم تريد القرآن ! ركن المتحدثين ~ Speakers corner



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    Today, we will be talking about a scientific fact, mentioned in the Quran, regarding the male reproductive system. It is important to point out that while the Quran is not a science textbook, many of the latest scientific discoveries that were revealed in Quranic passages 1400 years ago. This is in stark contrast with the Bible, which contains numerous scientific errors (due to corruption by the scribes: (Jer 8:8, Mat 5:20, 23:13). For example, regarding genetics, in Genesis 30:37-42, Jacob changes the characteristics of animal offspring by having their parents look at white stripes while mating.

    FIRST
    We will examine the Quranic verse that describes the location of seminal fluid prior to being discharged.
    Literal translation of Quran 86:6-7:
    { (Man is) created from gushing water (which) comes out from between the backbone * and the ribs *. }
    * from Al Qamoos, Lisan Al Arab, etc
    In other words, just prior to gushing or coming out of the body, seminal fluid is located between the backbone and the ribs.

    At first glance, a layman might think that SEMEN comes out from the testicles. While the SPERM is produced in the testicles, NEITHER is the sperm NOR is the seminal fluid (essential for natural fertilization) anywhere near them prior to ejaculation. The verse specifically mentions the entire fluid, and not just the sperm “component”. So let’s examine the process of emission, where all the components of semen are joined. Sperm is stored in the epididymis, which is not in the testicles, but above them. The Sperm which comprises 2 to 5% of the seminal fluid, , travels from the epididymis up through the Vas Deferens duct and around the bladder. Together, the seminal vesicle and the prostate gland produce 90% of the fluid in semen. This mixture travels through the prostate and is joined by mucus from the bulbourethral glands, just below the prostate.
    http://www.webmd.com/sex-relationships/g...tem?page=2
    en.allexperts.com/e/s/se/semen.htm 
    en.allexperts.com/e/e/ej/ejaculation.htm

    It is at this point that semen is fully formed, comprising both the sperm and the seminal fluids. As we can see, just prior to coming out of the body, all components of semen are mixed near the prostate, which is centered in the body, between the backbone and the ribs, or between the spine and the chest, which is between the back and front of the abdomen or torso, and most certainly not in the testicles or in the lower body at all.

    Someone might object by saying: the ribs are too high to say “the prostate is between the backbone & the ribs.” To this objection, we answer that: the head is still between the shoulders even though it is too high, & the genitals are still between the legs, even though they are too high.

    Now let’s check the verse again.
    { (Man is) created from gushing water (which) comes out from between the backbone * and the ribs *. }
    This precise scientific description could not have been known 1400 years ago, and even today most people don’t know it, as we will see next.

    SECOND
    We will examine some false claims regarding the scientific accuracy of this verse.

    In reference to this verse, answering-islam.org quotes mistake by Dr. William Campbell: “…we are left with the very real problem that the SEMEN IS COMING FROM the back or kidney area and not THE TESTICLES.”
    answering-islam.org/Quran/Science/semenproduction.htm
    http://www.answering-islam.org/Campbell/s4c2b.html

    In fact, SEMEN does NOT come from the testicles. (only the SPERM is produced there, which comprises 2-5% of semen). And as we saw earlier, SEMEN IS ACTUALLY FORMED NEAR THE PROSTATE.

    Next, let’s also listen to the false claims of the person discussislam: “This description reflects the view of Hippocrates, common in the 5th century…that SEMEN comes from all the fluid of the body & passes through the kidneys on the way to the penis. We now know that it comes from the testicles.” First of all, DISCUSSISLAM also falsely claims semen comes from the testicles “We now know that it comes from the testicles”. It’s astonishing how those attacking Islam make the same layman errors, without checking their facts.

    In any case, The Quran does not contain the scientific errors of Hippocrates view
    1) That Semen comes from all the fluid in the body.
    2) That Semen passes through the kidneys.
    As such, contrary to DISCUSSISLAM’s misrepresentation, there is no similarity whatsoever, between this Quranic passage, and the view of Hippocrates.

    Furthermore, let’s examine some more of Hippocrates related scientific errors, that are again NOT in the Quran:
    1) sperm originate in the brain
    2) men & women produce sperm
    3) “healthy” sperm is produced by healthy parts of the body
    4) stronger sperm results in males, weaker sperm results in females

    IN CONCLUSION
    The Quran clearly mentions the scientific fact, before it was known, about where semen becomes fully formed before “gushing” out. Semen includes the sperm AND seminal fluids, which are BOTH absolutely required for natural fertilization. The Quran accurately states that this fluid (gushing water) is between the backbone and the ribs prior to coming out of the body, as seen from the profile view of the male anatomy.

    Those attempting to discredit this Quranic verse, simply demonstrate their own lack of scientific knowledge regarding the male reproductive system. In addition, trying to ascribe the numerous scientific accuracies from the Quran, to philosophers like Hippocrates, who could rarely AVOID scientific errors on any matter, is obviously quite ridiculous.

    As we have demonstrated, misrepresenting both the scientific facts, and the views of ancient societies, is not only the strategy but a fundamental requirement for people attempting to refute the Quran’s overwhelming signs.

    see here
    زائر أراد إثبات وجود خطأ علمي في القرآن فتم إثبات وجود إعجاز علمي به

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    in quran
    And verily in cattle (too) will ye find an instructive sign. From what is within their bodies between excretions and blood, We produce, for your drink, milk, pure and agreeable to those who drink it.



    Milk is a Blood Production (New Scientific Miracle in Quran)
    SCIENCE AFFIRMS MILK IS ORIGINATED FROM BLOOD
    ???

    Allah the Almighty God says in Quran:
    16:66) And verily! In the cattle, there is a lesson for you. We give you to drink of that which is in their bellies, from between excretions and blood, pure milk; palatable to the drinkers.

    Scientists say:
    There is waste in the blood by that definition. The kidneys filter the blood. Excretions… nutrition from the Gastro-intestinal tract or ‘excretions’ with useful nutrients is absorbed into the blood. It feeds the mammary glands to make nutrition full milk. Waist is filtered from the blood by the kidneys

    You we eat food… it gets digested… while being digested nutrients are absorbed into the blood…. the blood makes the milk…. the blood is filtered perfectly by the breast or cow’s udders to make amazing milk ? and the blood is filtered through the kidneys and you suffocate
    ! So the breast doesn’t take junk from the blood. It’s highly selective

    Remember Allah says
    (16:66) And that for you in the camels/livestock (is) an example (E) , We make you drink from what (is) in its bellies/insides, clear/pure milk pleasant tasting to the drinking, from between fully and partially digested food/feces and blood.

    So with this we read ‘from fully and partially digested food’

    Food digests in stages. Near the end of the Gut it is fully, near the top it is partially digested.

    When we read in Quran from ‘feces’ it just means food that is being digested.

    It’s amazing how Quran mentions blood from milk!

    1) nutrients do come from the blood taken from the gut
    2) milk is made from blood!!
    So cool man!

    ??This
    (16:66) And verily in cattle (too) will you find an instructive sign. From what is within their bodies between excretions and blood, We produce, for your drink, milk, pure and agreeable to those who drink it.

    So we have
    Food
    Digestion
    Partially digested food
    Fully digested food
    Absorption of water, vitamins and nutrients into blood
    Blood feeds mammary glands
    Milk produced

    ??Scientific reference
    1-https://www.geeksaresexy.net/2018/04/13/did-you-know-milk-is-just-filtered-blood/

    ??2-
    https://youtu.be/NcsGpDFKCgY
    Scientists also mention that “Milk Is Just Filtered Blood”
    Quotes:
    “weird as this seems, all mammal milk is, in fact, made from blood , Yeah This is a Fact ? , because blood contains lots of nutrients, and the baby need lots of sugar, fat, and protein to grow complex brains and bodies. there is a tiny sacs that grap the pasing blood and do some chemistry on them, and pass them to the inside of the sacs where they mix together to become milk .

    ??▪
    Reference: https://steemit.com/life/@dippa/milk-is-...lieve-that

    ??▪
    4- See this reference too
    https://www.realclearscience.com/video/2...blood.html

    {And indeed, for you in grazing livestock is a lesson. We give you drink from what is in their bellies – between contents of intestine and blood – pure milk, palatable to drinkers.}(Al-Qur’an 16:66)

    ?Following the advancement of scientific research throughout the centuries, man came to learn that the components of milk are extracted from chyme after the digestion of the food, and run in the blood stream to reach the mammary glands in the udders of females that extract the components of milk from blood retaining no traces of chyme or blood in the milk.

    ?However, the Holy Qur’an disclosed these secrets to its readers in the most beautiful and most concise way 14 hundred years ago.

    ?Who taught Muhammad (peace be upon him) the secrets of the digestive system and the circulatory system and the subtle processes going on in the mammary glands other than Allah, Who knows the secrets in earth and heavens and Who knows the mysteries of what He has created? This is enough evidence that the Qur’an is revealed by Allah , the Exalted and that Muhammad (peace be upon him) is His Messenger.

    Allah (Subhanahu wa taala) says:
    “But Allah bears witness to that which He has revealed to you. He has sent it (Quran) down with His knowledge, and the angels bear witness [as well]. And sufficient is Allah as Witness..” (Quran 4:166)



    Miracle of the Holy Quran for blood circulation and milk production Lecturer Zakir Naik



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NzXVXSvqhw


    جندي امريكي يريد إعتناق الإسلام لكنه يخشى عائلته | عثمان بن فاروق مترجم
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    Surah Al-Anbiya, Ch. No. 21, V. No. 33… (Arabic)…. That it is Allah, who has created the nights and the day…. (Arabic)…. each one travelling in a orbit, with its own motion. It says that… The sun and the moon is travelling in a orbit… orbit means revolving – with its own motion means… rotating. ‘Yasbahun’ is an Arabic word, describing the motion of a moving body for a celestial body. It is rotating… it revolving and rotating

    He created the heavens and the Earth with truth. He wraps the night around the day and wraps the day around the night, and has made the Sun and Moon subservient, each one running for a specified term. Is He not indeed the Almighty, the Endlessly Forgiving? ( Surat az-Zumar, 5)

    In the above verse the movement of the Earth is described by the word “yukawwiru,” which comes from root verb “takwir,” meaning “to cover up a spherical body,” in the way that the rotation of the Earth gives rise to night and day, like the winding of a turban. In addition to the spherical shape of the Earth the word is also the most accurate expression of its movement around the Sun. Because of the Earth’s spherical shape and its movement around the Sun, the Sun always illuminates one side of the Earth while the other is in darkness. The side in shadow is shrouded by the darkness of night, to be replaced by the brightness of day when the Sun rises. The positions of the Sun and Earth are revealed as follows in Surah Ya Sin:

    And the Sun runs to its resting place. That is the decree of the Almighty, the All-Knowing. And We have decreed set phases for the Moon, until it ends up looking like an old palm spathe. It is not for the Sun to overtake the Moon nor for the night to outstrip the day; each one is swimming in a sphere. (Surah Ya Sin, 38-40)

    The movements of the Sun and Moon in verse 40 of Surah Ya Sin are described by the Arabic word "yasbahoona," meaning “flowing, passing or swimming.” This word refers to an action performed by someone on their own. Someone acting according to this verb continues to perform it alone, with no intervention from anyone else. The above verses may therefore be referring to the Sun’s independent movement in the universe, independent of any other celestial body. (Allah knows the truth.) It is impossible for us to see or follow the movement of the Sun with our own eyes. It is only possible to determine that movement using special technological equipment. As stated in verse 39 of Surah Ya Sin, in addition to rotating around its own axis once every 26 days, the Sun also moves through its own course.

    The verse also reports that the Sun is not allowed to “overtake the Moon,” and the Qur’an thus states that the Sun and Moon do not revolve around the same body, as astronomers put it. At the same time, the verse makes it clear that there is no connection between the motion responsible for night and day and the movement of the Sun and Moon.



    In Surah An-Nami, 27:88, Allah Almighty says (which means):

    “And you see the mountains, you think them to be firmly fixed, but they are moving, the movement of the clouds. The doing of Allah, Who has perfected every single thing. Surely He is Well-Acquainted with what you are doing.”

    So the mountains are described in this verse as moving with ‘the movement of the clouds.” This is obviously a reference to the Earth’s rotation, as the mountains may appear to be stationary, they actually moving as the Earth rotates.

    see here
    The Quran Mentions that the Sun Rotates about its Axis 1400 years ago - Dr Zakir Naik

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dh8hzU9XFw



    FULL - Dr. Zakir Naik The Quran and the Bible in the Light of Science vs Dr William Campbell

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xk61hslLHlw



    اسكت! _ مسلم عملاق يزلزل ثلاثة أشخاص ~ محمد حجاب ~ Speaker's corner

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAxQ-fM_Joc


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    أثبت لي أن عيسى هو المسيح الذي سيأتي في آخر الزمان! عدنان رشيد في حوار مع زائر
    الداعية الأمريكي خالد ياسين يتحدى الإعلام - مترجم - Khalid Yasin's Challenge to the Media
    فتحت الإنجيل والقرآن عشوائيًا - النتيجة غير متوقعة
    لماذا من العدل أن يُقتل إنساناً بريئاً؟ حوار هاشم مع مسيحيين
    أمريكية من طائفة شهود يهوه كانت تظن أنها
    على الحق الكامل حتى عرفت الإسلام
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4oxGm2qOkg

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    The sun does not literally set in a muddy spring. The Quran verse you’re referring to says “He found it setting on a hot spring”. Of course, from background knowledge, it’s obvious that the sun doesn’t really set, and God is using figurative language here. Also another meaning for “find” is to perceive something a certain way. So this was simply talking about Zul-Qarnain seeing the sun like it was setting on a spring.

    he is saying that he was describing and sun doesnt set and rise These are all perceptions of the people themselves. What does the sun have to do with the story in all this? There is no where in the story where the sun is the focus

    When one speaks of the setting and rising of the sun, no one is actually referring to the actual movement of the sun. They are talking about how it appears to move while on Earth. Therefore if you were at the place Zul-Qarnain was, and you looked at the horizon during the sunset at that time and place, and there happened to be a spring at the distance where the sunset was taking place, you would have seen the sun as setting on the spring.

    Does the Noble Qur'an says the sun sets in murky water??? by Dr Zakir Naik

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8R2rVgD2ok

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    Christmas and 25th of December
    Many Christians are unaware that the true spirit of reverence which Muslims display towards Jesus and his mother Mary spring from the fountainhead of their faith as prescribed in the Holy Quran. Most do not know that a Muslim does not take the name of Jesus , without saying Eesa alai-hiss-salaam i.e. (Jesus peace be upon him).
    Jesus is commonly considered to have been born on the 25th of December. However, it is common knowledge among Christian scholars that he was not born on this day. It is well known that the first Christian churches held their festival in May, April, or January. Scholars of the first two centuries AD even differ in which year he was born. Some believing that he was born fully twenty years before the current accepted date. So how was the 25th of December selected as the birthday of Jesus ?
    Grolier's encyclopedia says: "Christmas is the feast of the birth of Jesus Christ, celebrated on December 25 ... Despite the beliefs about Christ that the birth stories expressed, the church did not observe a festival for the celebration of the event until the 4th century.... since 274, under the emperor Aurelian, Rome had celebrated the feast of the "Invincible Sun" on December 25. In the Eastern Church, January 6, a day also associated with the winter solstice, was initially preferred. In course of time, however, the West added the Eastern date as the Feast of the Epiphany, and the East added the Western date of Christmas".
    So who else celebrated the 25th of December as the birth day of their gods before it was agreed upon as the birth day of Jesus ? Well, there are the people of India who rejoice, decorate their houses with garlands, and give presents to their friends on this day. The people of China also celebrate this day and close their shops. Buddha is believed to have been born on this day. The great savior and god of the Persians, Mithras, is also believed to have been born on the 25th of December long before the coming of Jesus .
    The Egyptians celebrated this day as the birth day of their great savior Horus, the Egyptian god of light and the son of the "virgin mother" and "queen of the heavens" Isis. Osiris, god of the dead and the underworld in Egypt, the son of "the holy virgin", again was believed to have been born on the 25th of December.
    The Greeks celebrated the 25th of December as the birthday of Hercules, the son of the supreme god of the Greeks, Zeus, through the mortal woman Alcmene Bacchus, the god of wine and revelry among the Romans (known among the Greeks as Dionysus) was also born on this day.
    Adonis, revered as a "dying-and-rising god" among the Greeks, miraculously was also born on the 25th of December. His worshipers held him a yearly festival representing his death and resurrection, in midsummer. The ceremonies of his birthday are recorded to have taken place in the same cave in Bethlehem which is claimed to have been the birth place of Jesus .
    The Scandinavians celebrated the 25th of December as the birthday of their god Freyr, the son of their supreme god of the heavens, Odin.
    The Romans observed this day as the birthday of the god of the sun, Natalis Solis Invicti ("Birthday of Sol the invincible"). There was great rejoicing and all shops were closed. There was illumination and public games. Presents were exchanged, and the slaves were indulged in great liberties. These are the same Romans who would later preside over the council of Nicea (325 CE) which lead to the official Christian recognition of the "Trinity" as the "true" nature of God, and the "fact" that Jesus was born on the 25th of December too.
    In Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, Gibbon says: "The Roman Christians, ignorant of his (Christ's) birth, fixed the solemn festival to the 25th of December, the Brumalia, or Winter Solstice, when the Pagans annually celebrated the birth of Sol " vol. ii, p. 383.
    Christians opposed to Christmas
    There are several Christian groups who are opposed to Christmas. For example, they take the verse from the Bible in Jeremiah 10:2-4 as an admonition against decorating Christmas trees.
    The King James Version reads: "Thus saith the Lord, Learn not the way of the heathen.... For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not."
    In order to understand this subject, it is helpful to trace some of the history of Christmas avoidance, particularly its roots in Puritanism.
    The Puritans believed that the first-century church modeled a Christianity that modern Christians should copy. They attempted to base their faith and practice solely on the New Testament, and their position on Christmas reflected their commitment to practice a pure, scriptural form of Christianity. Puritans argued that God reserved to himself the determination of all proper forms of worship, and that he disapproved of any human innovations - even innovations that celebrated the great events of salvation. The name Christmas also alienated many Puritans.
    Christmas, after all, meant "the mass of Christ." The mass was despised as a Roman Catholic institution that undermined the Protestant concept of Christ, who offered himself once for all. The Puritans' passionate avoidance of any practice that was associated with papal Rome caused them to overlook the fact that in many countries the name for the day had nothing to do with the Catholic mass, but focused instead on Jesus' birth. The mass did not evolve into the form abhorred by Protestants until long after Christmas was widely observed. The two customs had separate, though interconnected, histories.
    As ardent Protestants, Puritans identified the embracing of Christianity by the Roman Emperor Constantine in the early 300s CE as the starting point of the degeneration and corruption of the church. They believed the corruption of the church was brought on by the interweaving of the church with the pagan Roman state. To Puritans, Christmas was impure because it entered the Roman Church sometime in this period. No one knows the exact year or under what circumstances Roman Christians began to celebrate the birth of their Lord, but by the mid-300s CE, the practice was well established.

    مسيحية تتهجم على يوسف استس وتقول له كيف تتجرأ أن تترك المسيحية فدمر سؤلها بدقائق

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2nWd2V6MdA

    أحمد ديدات - من هو أبو المسيح عليه السلام - YouTube




    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19ejqMYNwrY

    when Christ was born Ahmed Deedat a lecture debates youtube
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFfPTgHee6c


    حكم التهنئة بالكريسماس - ذاكر نايك Zakir Naik
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7X5pDQQ9EU8

    Christ in Islam a sequel (full studio debate) - Sheikh Ahmed ...


    ولادة عيسى عليه السلام وفقاً لما ورد في القرآن الكريم || الدكتور ذاكر نايك

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idtASxe6XkU


    أحمد ديدات يحدد ميلاد عيسى عليه السلام


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5vwrIJvXCc

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    Christmas and 25th of December
    Many Christians are unaware that the true spirit of reverence which Muslims display towards Jesus and his mother Mary spring from the fountainhead of their faith as prescribed in the Holy Quran. Most do not know that a Muslim does not take the name of Jesus , without saying Eesa


    alai-hiss-salaam i.e. (Jesus peace be upon him).
    Jesus is commonly considered to have been born on the 25th of December. However, it is common knowledge among Christian scholars that he was not born on this day. It is well known that the first Christian churches held their festival in May, April, or January. Scholars of the first two centuries AD even differ in which year he was born. Some believing that he was born fully twenty years before the current accepted date. So how

    was the 25th of December selected as the birthday of Jesus ?



    Grolier's encyclopedia says: "Christmas is the feast of the birth of Jesus Christ, celebrated on December 25 ... Despite the beliefs about Christ that the birth stories expressed, the church did not observe a festival for the celebration of the event until the 4th century.... since 274, under the emperor Aurelian, Rome had celebrated the feast of the "Invincible Sun" on December 25. In the Eastern Church, January 6, a day also associated with the winter solstice, was initially preferred. In course of time, however, the West added the Eastern date as the Feast of the Epiphany, and the East added the Western date of Christmas"

    .
    So who else celebrated the 25th of December as the birth day of their gods before it was agreed upon as the birth day of Jesus ? Well, there are the people of India who rejoice, decorate their houses with garlands, and give presents to their friends on this day. The people of China also celebrate this day and close their shops. Buddha is believed to have been born on this day. The great savior and god of the Persians, Mithras, is also believed to have been born on the 25th of December long before the coming of Jesus .



    The Egyptians celebrated this day as the birth day of their great savior Horus, the Egyptian god of light and the son of the "virgin mother" and "queen of the heavens" Isis. Osiris, god of the dead and the underworld in Egypt, the son of "the holy virgin", again was believed to have been born on the 25th of December.
    The Greeks celebrated the 25th of December as the birthday of Hercules, the son of the supreme god of the Greeks, Zeus, through the mortal woman Alcmene Bacchus, the god of wine and revelry among the Romans (known among the Greeks as Dionysus) was also born on this day.



    Adonis, revered as a "dying-and-rising god" among the Greeks, miraculously was also born on the 25th of December. His worshipers held him a yearly festival representing his death and resurrection, in midsummer. The ceremonies of his birthday are recorded to have taken place in the same cave in Bethlehem which is claimed to have been the birth place of Jesus .



    The Scandinavians celebrated the 25th of December as the birthday of their god Freyr, the son of their supreme god of the heavens, Odin.
    The Romans observed this day as the birthday of the god of the sun, Natalis Solis Invicti ("Birthday of Sol the invincible"). There was great rejoicing and all shops were closed. There was illumination and public games. Presents were exchanged, and the slaves were indulged in great liberties. These are the same Romans who would later preside over the council of Nicea (325 CE) which lead to the official Christian recognition of the "Trinity" as the "true" nature of God, and the "fact" that Jesus was born on the 25th of December too.
    In Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, Gibbon says: "The Roman Christians, ignorant of his (Christ's) birth, fixed the solemn festival to the 25th of December, the Brumalia, or Winter Solstice, when the Pagans annually celebrated the birth of Sol " vol. ii, p. 383.



    Christians opposed to Christmas


    There are several Christian groups who are opposed to Christmas. For example, they take the verse from the Bible in Jeremiah 10:2-4 as an admonition against decorating Christmas trees.
    The King James Version reads: "Thus saith the Lord, Learn not the way of the heathen.... For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not."


    In order to understand this subject, it is helpful to trace some of the history of Christmas avoidance, particularly its roots in Puritanism.
    The Puritans believed that the first-century church modeled a Christianity that modern Christians should copy. They attempted to base their faith and practice solely on the New Testament, and their position on Christmas reflected their commitment to practice a pure, scriptural form of Christianity. Puritans argued that God reserved to himself the determination of all proper forms of worship, and that he disapproved of any human innovations - even innovations that celebrated the great events of salvation. The name Christmas also alienated many Puritans.



    Christmas, after all, meant "the mass of Christ." The mass was despised as a Roman Catholic institution that undermined the Protestant concept of Christ, who offered himself once for all. The Puritans' passionate avoidance of any practice that was associated with papal Rome caused them to overlook the fact that in many countries the name for the day had nothing to do with the Catholic mass, but focused instead on Jesus' birth. The mass did not evolve into the form abhorred by Protestants until long after Christmas was widely observed. The two customs had separate, though interconnected, histories.



    As ardent Protestants, Puritans identified the embracing of Christianity by the Roman Emperor Constantine in the early 300s CE as the starting point of the degeneration and corruption of the church. They believed the corruption of the church was brought on by the interweaving of the church with the pagan Roman state. To Puritans, Christmas was impure because it entered the Roman Church sometime in this period. No one knows the exact year or under what circumstances Roman Christians began to celebrate the birth of their Lord, but by the mid-300s CE, the practice was well established.





    مسيحية تتهجم على يوسف استس وتقول له كيف تتجرأ أن تترك المسيحية فدمر سؤلها بدقائق

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2nWd2V6MdA

    أحمد ديدات - من هو أبو المسيح عليه السلام - YouTube




    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19ejqMYNwrY

    when Christ was born Ahmed Deedat a lecture debates youtube
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFfPTgHee6c


    حكم التهنئة بالكريسماس - ذاكر نايك Zakir Naik
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7X5pDQQ9EU8

    Christ in Islam a sequel (full studio debate) - Sheikh Ahmed ...


    ولادة عيسى عليه السلام وفقاً لما ورد في القرآن الكريم || الدكتور ذاكر نايك

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idtASxe6XkU


    أحمد ديدات يحدد ميلاد عيسى عليه السلام


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5vwrIJvXCc

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    Iron is one of the elements highlighted in the Qur'an. There is even a chapter named "al-Hadid", which means "iron".
    The following is stated in verse 25 of the chapter of al-Hadid:


    "And We also sent down iron in which there lies great force and which has many uses for mankind." (al-Hadid, 25)

    The word "anzalna", used for the formation of iron in the verse means "we sent down". However, what we know is that the iron is dug out from the underground. In our opinion, "we dug out" should have been preferred instead of "we sent down". However, the situation is not as what we think. With the expression "we sent down" in the verse, a very important scientific miracle is pointed out.



    It is as follows: For the formation of the mineral of iron, a certain temperature is needed. This necessary temperature exists neither in the earth nor in the sun. The sun has a surface temperature of 6.000 degrees Celsius, and a core temperature of approximately 15 million degrees. However, this temperature is inadequate for the formation of iron. Iron can only be produced in stars much larger than the Sun, where the temperature reaches a few hundred million degrees. When the amount of iron exceeds a certain level in stars called a "nova" or a "supernova", the star can no longer accommodate it, and it eventually explodes. These explosions make it possible for iron to be dispersed into space. All astronomic discoveries have put forth that the mineral of iron comes from huge stars of outer space.




    Not only the iron in the earth but also the iron in the solar system is acquired from outer space. For, as we have stated before, the temperature of the sun is not enough for the formation of the iron mineral. What is understood from all above is that the mineral of iron is not formed in the earth but sent down by being carried away from supernovas just as it is stated in the verse.



    It is not possible for this knowledge to be known in the age when the Qur'an was revealed, that is, 1400 years ago. Since it is not possible, how can it be explained that this information exists in the Qur'an?
    Is there any explanation other than the fact that the Qur'an is the book of Allah?
    Besides, it has been mentioned in the verse that the iron has many benefits for humans. However, people used the iron only to make swords at the time when this verse was revealed and did not know other benefits of the iron. Despite this, the Qur'an stated, "it has many benefits for mankind".

    Now let us see the latest scientific data on iron:




    Without the iron atom, carbon-based life in the cosmos would not be possible.
    That is, there would be no supernovae, no heating of the primitive earth, no atmosphere or hydrosphere. There would be no protective magnetic field, no Van Allen radiation belts, no ozone layer, no metal to make hemoglobin in human blood, no metal to tame the reactivity of oxygen, and no oxidative metabolism.
    It is very significant and wise that attention is attracted to the iron particularly and that the following is stated about it: "iron in which there lies great force and which has many uses for mankind".





    Along with what we have mentioned above, there is one more secret in this verse. It is as follows: The verse that mentions iron is verse 25 of the chapter of al-Hadid. This verse contains two rather interesting mathematical codes



    "Al-Hadid" is the 57th chapter in the Qur'an. When the word is uttered with the definite article al (the) as "al-Hadid" in Arabic, the sum of the abjad value (numerological value) of its letters is also 57. The numerological value of the word "hadid" alone (without the definite article) is 26. And 26 is the atomic number of the iron. That is, when we utter it as al-hadid, its numerological value is 57, which is the number of the chapter in the Quran. When we utter it as hadid, its numerological value is 26, which is the atomic number of the iron




    Now, let us think justly: Is it possible for a human being who could not read and write and who lived in the desert 1400 years ago, when science and technology did not exist even by name, to know that iron was sent down from the sky and to write it in a book by paying attention to numerological values? Can any sane person accept it? Can a person who accepts it be regarded sane?




    In that case, it is nonsense and delusion equal to closing one's eye to the sun, which illuminates the world, to say that the Quran is the word of a human being. A person who closes his eyes is able to turn day into night only for himself. We send endless praise and thanks to our Lord, who does not leave us in darkness and who turns the night into day with the light of the Quran.



    Iron In The Quran
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaLNFvR17Hk

    christian scientist confirm Quran is true!


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOYpjZywUPA

    Scientists amazed (1 of 2) by Quran's scientific facts


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGbQvx4Ej_k


    Scientists amazed (2 of 2) by Quran's scientific facts

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K15WK0WTBMg

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    عثمان بن فاروق يفاجئ زوجين غير مسلمين مؤدبين بمعلومات من الكتاب المقدس
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3KsIEuietA

    هاشم في حوار جديد مع مسيحيين حول نبوءة الكتاب المقدس عن رسول الله
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YmAJ3HGBK0

    طبيعة يسوع - أنور و مبشر في ركن الخطباء
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-WOvdm3vto



    أوروبا تحتاج للإسلام - حوار حمزة مع زائر

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UboGr6RFlxA&t=15s


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