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    Junior Member KoolGuy_GT500's Avatar
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    Abortion is Wrong

    Can ninjas have abortions?

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    Abortion is Wrong

    They do...you just dont know it.

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    Abortion is Wrong

    Almost certain everything that controls pain, cognitive function etc etc isn't formed then so it really doesn't bother me.

    Also sexual intercourse isn't a reckless decision. There's a huge need for improvement in sexual education, especially in the states, and a change of attitude towards how you approach it with young people. If people got over the bs abstinence type sex education and instead was upfront about everything, informed people about contraception and provided it free you'd see a lot less need for abortions.

    Minor side note because its a personal peeve of mine: I find it ironic that religion has a pro life stance against abortion, but they're style of sex education that seeks to ignore the issue and try to keep you pure as long as possible is actively contributing to the need for terminations in the first place.

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    Abortion is Wrong

    I also find it ironic that many of the same people that are against abortion are also in favour of executing criminals.
    That seems odd to me.
    It's not pro-life but more pro-"some life".

    Especially when those same people also probably think aborted embryos and blastocysts go to heaven (the best reward ever) while dead criminals go to hell?

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    Abortion is Wrong

    Makes sense to me - I don't think prolife is about protecting unborn children so much as it is instituting social controls on women's bodies.

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    Abortion is Wrong

    I don't follow this. How can encouraging unmarried people to abstain from sexual activity increase the need for abortions?

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    Abortion is Wrong

    Because it's part and parcel of a restrictive attitude to sex in general and lack of education about other birth control methods.
    I remember reading that "abstinance only" sex education delays sexual activity by something like 6 months on avergae (if that) and means the teenagers are just as, if not more, likely to engage in other "non pro-creative" sexual activity before then (meaning more infections).
    It's not that encouraging abstinence makes more pregnancies but that encouraging abstinence, while also neglecting other areas of sex education, doesn't actually do much to reduce teenage or unwanted pregnancies (IIR the stats and figures correctly).

    Whether you think abortion is right or wrong the one thing you won't ever stop is people having sex. So in my world abortion is like putting someone in prison. I don't like that we have to do it but realistically it's just something that needs to be available.
    Better to destroy a non-sentient cluster of cells than force a woman to have a child she doesn't want.

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    Abortion is Wrong

    It's not about the women's body, it's about the babies body.

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    Abortion is Wrong

    What about them being against abortions where the "baby" (it's not a baby) doesn't even have a body?

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    Abortion is Wrong

    It would have to be VERY early in the pregnancy for it to not have a body, even as we would recognise it as being an embyonic human body.

    The whole question of when does it become a person as opposed to a clump of cells seems like a minefield to me.


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