If church and state are separate, how can homos have the right to marry when...

[ZealousFoxHunter]

...marriage is religious ceremony? church and state are separate, are they not liberals ?

[MaryjaneDarkGoddess]

If it was strictly a religious ceremony then gays would not have a legal leg to stand on. But since the gov. got involved in marriage, i.e. marriage licenses, tax break, then it became a secular ceremony and equal protection under the law kicks in.

[canipbanana]

marriage started out as religious but is now a part of the government and the law, not recognized as religious, but as a bond recognized by the state.

[ArmchairGoddess#1]

You know...you far-rightwing anti-marriage-equality folks are overlooking the irony of your objections to homosexuals engaging in sex and also to having same-sex marriage when the best way to make sure homosexuals do not have sex anymore is to let them get married---marriage tends to lessen the desire for intimacy by its very nature...lol.

GOP extremists do not acknowledge the First and Fourteenth Amendments to our Constitution with the same fervor (fanaticism) that they cling to and worship the Second Amendment, but if they should change this selectivist approach to the point where Separation of Church and State was acceptable to their religious-fanatic selves, then their biblical-literalist (erroneous) "religion"-based objections to gay marriage might ease up in a "live and let live" or "to each his or her own" manner.

[MeNeFrego]

I think it is time to concede some ground and rethink the issue.

What are the homosexual marriage advocates asking for in all reality? They are asking to step over to the other side of the line with heterosexual married people, and participate in excluding all others from participating in the priveliges and obligations associated with marriage by the state. Who can deny this?

I say the state should not discriminate, and sexual relations should not be a pre-conditions for enjoying the benefits of this legal contract. Consider the "Chuck and Larry" situation. Why must they demonstrate a sexual relationship for the state to consider them married?
I can understand the prohibition on the number of people involved and keeping it at two, but since homosexual unions do away with the procreative aspects of this legal union, then why on earth can't any two people participate, regardless of their relationship?

By what ethical standard can homosexuals and heterosexuals included, and everyone else excluded?

[MreSelflDestruct]

You sound like a real punk.

[drhead]

Then why do you get a state-issued marriage license? There are legal parts to being married. Sharing your property is one of them.

And it is the 'wedding' that is the religious ceremony.

[JakefromStateFarm]

Why does the state issue the license, Dumb c0n.

[TheOriginalNineStates]

Marriage isn't a religious ceremony for me. How come I shouldn't be allowed to marry, are you a dictator or something?

[TheKitten]

Yes and I'm not aware of any legislation, anywhere, which forces Churches to celebrate or recognize these marriages.