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    Junior Member Ekendil's Avatar
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    2-5 and 7 are self-fulfilling.

    6 is not a prophecy. FAIL!

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    The Nativity is clearly a tacked on story to place Jesus of Nazareth in Bethlehem. It's nonsense. You don't travel in a census.

    They weren't fulfilled. They were written in.

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    Ignoring history written after the fact to conform to prophecy, politicians who use prophecy as their guide to wear the cloak of god's chosen, and retroactive writing of prophecy, the big problem with it is that a single counter example calls all into doubt.

    Jesus was not named Immanuel nor did he return in the life time of his audience.

    Armageddon didn't happen, Nero was not overthrown.

    There you go, four unfulfilled prophecies that can not be fulfilled in the future as the actors are no longer with us.

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    All garbage

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    ANYTHING in the new testament isn't a bible prophesy. It's now a greek mythology prophesy.

    Which would not make it work.

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    vague prophecies are vague

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    If you write something after the fact, you can make anything appear to be a fulfilled prediction.

    If you write something with an extensive knowledge of prior written history, you can tailor current events to seem to fulfill prior predictions.

    If you write something vaguely enough to defy specific meaning, any future occurrence can be adjusted to fit into a simple pattern that appears to fit the prediction.

    If you objectively study the archeology and the history of both the creation of the Bible as a Christian text and the real events behind the Biblical presentation of the same, your opinion of the Bible is bound to change for the worse. The contest between what is known to be true and what believers believe isn't even close: believers are blinded by their faith and reaching for straws.

    While I am sure you don't believe me now, ask yourself this simple question as a thought experiment: if the evidence of Jesus is so overwhelmingly obvious in the OT, how is that Jews (the foundation of original Christianity) don't see it?

    The more complex follow up question is this: If Christians cannot convince modern day Jews of the truth of their logic, how can that same logic work on those who do not respect the OT as inspired by a higher being?

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    I only will comment on number 6 since it's one I know a little bit about. The dimensions you give are flat out wrong, and over 1 million people live in that area of Iraq right now.

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    None of that changes the fact that your god is a killer of babies (egypt's first born)...you worship a baby killer. Feel good to love and worship a baby killer?

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    might want to add these:

    (8) The prophet Moses foretold (with some additions by Jeremiah and Jesus) that the ancient Jewish nation would be conquered twice and that the people would be carried off as slaves each time, first by the Babylonians (for a period of 70 years), and then by a fourth world kingdom (which we know as Rome). The second conqueror, Moses said, would take the Jews captive to Egypt in ships, selling them or giving them away as slaves to all parts of the world. Both of these predictions were fulfilled to the letter, the first in 607 B.C. and the second in 70 A.D. God's spokesmen said, further, that the Jews would remain scattered throughout the entire world for many generations, but without becoming assimilated by the peoples or of other nations, and that the Jews would one day return to the land of Palestine to re-establish for a second time their nation (Deuteronomy 29; Isaiah 11:11-13; Jeremiah 25:11; Hosea 3:4-5 and Luke 21:23-24).
    This prophetic statement sweeps across 3500 years of history to its complete fulfillment—in our lifetime.
    (Probability of chance fulfillment = 1 in 120.)

    (9) Jeremiah predicted that despite its fertility and despite the accessibility of its water supply, the land of Edom (today a part of Jordan) would become a barren, uninhabited wasteland (Jeremiah 49:15-20; Ezekiel 25:12-14). His description accurately tells the history of that now bleak region.
    (Probability of chance fulfillment = 1 in 105.)

    (10) Joshua prophesied that Jericho would be rebuilt by one man. He also said that the man's eldest son would die when the reconstruction began and that his youngest son would die when the work reached completion (Joshua 6:26). About five centuries later this prophecy found its fulfillment in the life and family of a man named Hiel (I Kings 16:33-34).
    (Probability of chance fulfillment = 1 in 107)..

    (11) The day of Elijah's supernatural departure from Earth was predicted unanimously—and accurately, according to the eye-witness account—by a group of fifty prophets (II Kings 2:3-11).
    (Probability of chance fulfillment = 1 in 109).

    (12) Jahaziel prophesied that King Jehoshaphat and a tiny band of men would defeat an enormous, well-equipped, well-trained army without even having to fight. Just as predicted, the King and his troops stood looking on as their foes were supernaturally destroyed to the last man (II Chronicles 20).
    (Probability of chance fulfillment = 1 in 108).

    (13) One prophet of God (unnamed, but probably Shemiah) said that a future king of Judah, named Josiah, would take the bones of all the occultic priests (priests of the "high places") of Israel's King Jeroboam and burn them on Jeroboam's altar (I Kings 13:2 and II Kings 23:15-18). This event occurred approximately 300 years after it was foretold.
    (Probability of chance fulfillment = 1 in 1013).


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