Still curious as to why creationists don't complain about quantum physics?

[chuckeasttom]

It would seem that millions of christians have no problem believing in God, even in Jesus, and accepting evolution. They regard the first 2 chapters of Genesis as allegorical, and believe God was the first cause of abiogenesis. But creationist reject this (often with minimal if any understanding of evolutionary biology).

So I am curious as to why creationists don't argue against quantum physics? Quantum physics posits a universe that is fundamentally random, non causal. This seems to be a greater challenge to traditional monotheistics religions than evolution. I could certainly envision a deity using the majectic process of evolution to produce the tapestry of life. However I have a hard time contemplating a designer who would have a design that is fundamentally random and non causal. So why not argue against quantum physics?


This is a serious question, I would very much appreciate an answer from a creationist.

Read the question, I am asking about its IMPLICATIONS for religion. Have you guys EVER considered actually reading a question before answering it?
For those who claim Quantum mechanics does not posit a random universe, may I suggest you review the wave/particle duality, quantum entanglement, and the Heisenburn uncertainty principles

[rabdomness]

maybe they are like me( I am Atheist) and they don't care about physics, or even quantum physics, or maybe they do want to learn more about it like I, but they don't know that much, I only remember from science 101 my sophomore year in high school doing:

velocity(speed)=distance
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time

[bladesinger0712]

This statement is absolutly false - "They regard the first 2 chapters of Genesis as allegorical, and believe God was the first cause of abiogenesis. But creationist reject this (often with minimal if any understanding of evolutionary biology)."

so theferfore your question is fundamentally flawed

but to address the quantum physics issue I would say because it even more so like all accutare science validates God and what we have already known about God

here is a Great aricle if you are interested it is pretty short but should answer your question It is titled The Boundaries of Reality
http://www.khouse.org/articles/1998/62/

And this one on quantum teleporting
Our Holographic Universe
http://www.khouse.org/articles/2002/398/

[hairypotto]

quantum physics? Yes. On the sub-atomic level nothing exists. The observer changes or in some cases creates the observed by the observers expectations (Copenhagen interpretation ). The idea that if enough people expect (believe) something is true, it will be; that's the essence of a neocon fundies "truth"

The Aneristic Principle is that of APPARENT ORDER; the Eristic Principle is that of APPARENT DISORDER. Both order and disorder are man made concepts and are artificial divisions of PURE CHAOS, which is a level deeper that is the level of distinction making. With our concept making apparatus called "mind" we look at reality through the ideas-about-reality which our cultures give us. The ideas-about-reality are mistakenly labeled "reality" and unenlightened people are forever perplexed by the fact that other people, especially other cultures, see "reality" differently. It is only the ideas-about-reality which differ. Real (capital-T True) reality is a level deeper that is the level of concept. We look at the world through windows on which have been drawn grids (concepts). Different philosophies use different grids. A culture is a group of people with rather similar grids. Through a window we view chaos, and relate it to the points on our grid, and thereby understand it. The ORDER is in the GRID. That is the Aneristic Principle. Western philosophy is traditionally concerned with contrasting one grid with another grid, and amending grids in hopes of finding a perfect one that will account for all reality and will, hence, (say unenlightened westerners) be True. This is illusory; it is what we Erisians call the ANERISTIC ILLUSION. Some grids can be more useful than others, some more beautiful than others, some more pleasant than others, etc., but none can be more True than any other. DISORDER is simply unrelated information viewed through some particular grid. But, like "relation", no-relation is a concept. Male, like female, is an idea about sex. To say that male-ness is "absence of femaleness", or vice versa, is a matter of definition and metaphysically arbitrary. The artificial concept of no-relation is the ERISTIC PRINCIPLE. The belief that "order is true" and disorder is false or somehow wrong, is the Aneristic Illusion. To say the same of disorder, is the ERISTIC ILLUSION. The point is that (little-t) truth is a matter of definition relative to the grid one is using at the moment, and that (capital-T) Truth, metaphysical reality, is irrelevant to grids entirely. Pick a grid, and through it some chaos appears ordered and some appears disordered. Pick another grid, and the same chaos will appear differently ordered and disordered. Reality is the original Rorschach.