On Dec 25 2007, 1:14 pm, Mitch Haynes <mitchhay
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> > ************************************************** *************************************TALK
> > ABOUT PRESIDENT Geroge W. Bush and John F Kerry **YOUR POLITICAL
> > CHAT LINE**FLOW JO MARKETING.*******MARIO ROEDERER
> > mac vs. pc
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> > From: Mario Roederer <roede
...@drmr.com>
> > Date: Wed Aug 25 2004 - 15:10:25 EST
> > I have only one comment to make on this debate:
> > George W. Bush ("nuculer") uses a PC.
> > John F. Kerry uses a Mac (<
Mac News First. | MacMinute News
> > kerry>).
> > Hmm.
> > mr
> > Received on Thu Aug 26 13:18:00 2004
> > * This message: [ Message body ]
> > * Next message: Bjvrnsson Sven G: "Cell cycle analysis with
> > DRAQ5"
> > * Previous message: WThrond
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> > Apple"
> > * In reply to: Robin Barclay: "Re: mr on Apple web site"
> > * Next in thread: Hirschkorn, Dale: "RE: mac vs. pc"
> > * Maybe reply: Hirschkorn, Dale: "RE: mac vs. pc"
> > * Maybe reply: Konz, Ric
> > hard: "RE: mac vs. pc"
> > * Reply: Joanne Lannigan: "RE: mac vs. pc"
> > * Reply: Robert C. Leif: "RE: mac vs. pc"
> > * Reply: Kristie Gordon: "Re: mac vs. pc"
> > * Maybe reply: Vandevert, Chris: "RE: mac vs. pc"
> > * Contemporary messages sorted: [ By Date ] [ By Thread ] [ By
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> > MARKETING THROUGH LIST BLATENT VERITY HOUSE SOFTWARE
> > Analysis Software
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> > From: VSH - Tech Support <t
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> > Date: Wed Jun 30 2004 - 12:08:14 EST
> > David
> > At the risk of sounding commercial, WinList can do what you want. I
> > have
> > attached a few pictures showing the WinList Region Array feature.
> > With this
> > you can tell the program exactly how you want the regions created and
> > how
> > many. If you would like to try it for yourself you can download a
> > trial
> > version from our web site
www.vsh.com.
> > Please let me know if you have any questions.
> > Best regards
> > Don
> > Donald J. Herbert
> > Technical Support Manager
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> > Verity Software House Has a Connected Search Engine attached selling
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> > WHY DOES VERITY REQUEST ARTICLES TO BE DELETED AFTER READING?
> > WHY MAIL LIST IS DOWN THESE LINK ARE NOT ACTIVE
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> > ANTI Commercial posting **NOTICE HOW THEY ADD A SMILEY
> > FACE**********FCS PRESS RAY HICKS
> > ************************************************** **************************************
> > anti) Commercial Posting
> > This message: [ Message body ] [ More options ]
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> > From: Ray Hicks <rh
...@cam.ac.uk>
> > Date: Wed Oct 13 2004 - 08:43:13 EST
> > Just a quick nopte to let people know that FCSPress is now shareware
> > (no time restrictions or feature reductions for free use, though if
> > you feel like like paying for it you can using paypal). It also now
> > works with Diva export files and runs ok under classic on OS 10.2 and
> > 10.3. I've discontinued FCS Assistant, which has fallen behind
> > FCSPress remarkably, and which failed to run as shareware on some
> > systems (it insisted you buy it or refused to run - FCSPress doesn't
> > even have a nag screen now - pesky things).
> > FCSPress is available from
www.fcspress.com
> > Enjoy!
> > Ray
> > Received on Wed Oct 13 14:38:00 2004
> > This message: [ Message body ]
> > Next message: Mike: "Re: (almost) sterile sorting"
> > Previous message: Hans-Georg.Krey
...@merck.de: "Once more: FACSstar
> > plus dual laser to give away (incl. location of the instrument)"
> > Contemporary messages sorted: [ By Date ] [ By Thread ] [ By
> > Subject ]
> > [ By Author ] [ By messages with attachments ]
> > This archive was generated by hypermail 2.1.8 : Thu Oct 14 2004 -
> > 03:12:04 EST
> > Mr. Apple WEB IS Mario OWNER OF FLOW JO **MORE MARKETING
> > ************************************************** **************************************
> > Re: mr on Apple web site
> > * This message: [ Message body ] [ More options ]
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> > to ] [ Next in thread ] [ Replies ]
> > From: Robin Barclay <Robin.Barc
...@ed.ac.uk>
> > Date: Wed Aug 25 2004 - 04:17:52 EST
> > Well .... some of us PC afficianados hate Macs just as much -
> > personally I
> > have hated them since they first made it difficult to access their
> > DOS
> > and
> > write programs in any language (especially for accessing/controlling
> > lab
> > apparatus) - back in the '70's when there were several different
> > options -
> > not just PC's. I am glad that the "PC" became a standard (there were
> > too
> > many diferent systems) and that IBM did not hang on to it the way
> > Apple kept
> > the Mac in house (you get more for your money with a PC because many
> > different people make them). You don't often get PC people knocking
> > Macs
> > the way that the Mac people knock PCs - there seems to be a lot of
> > Microsoft
> > paranoia. In my opinion PCs are much more common and versatile in
> > labs than
> > Macs - especially outside the USA - and will eventually become the
> > standard
> > for interfacing with lab equipment..... and they can "look cool" if
> > you shop
> > around for the right case if that's important to you.
> > Robin Barclay
> > Beverly Barton **STEERING COMMITY FOR* SCIENCE ADVISORY BOARD*****
> > Kanecki Associates Inc Discussion of FCS QUICK FACS 11 DELETED OFF THE
> > SITE!
> > MORE FLOW JO
> > ************************************************** **************************************----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Beverly Barton" <barto
...@UMDNJ.EDU>
> > To: cyto-inbox
> > Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 10:09 PM
> > Subject: Re: mr on Apple web site
> > > Paul:
> > > I use Macs exclusively. Between home and labs, I have 7.
> > > I hate Windows (I tell everyone, I don't do Windows).
> > > Macs are what Windows wishes it could do. OS X is rock-solid,
> > > especially Jaguar (OS 10.3).
> > > BD guys-get with it and release CellQuest Pro for OS X!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > > Oh, and Macs are way more photogenic. They look especially cool next
> > > to your flow cytometer. I just bought a new dual-boot G4 with
> > > flat-panel display for my flow.
> > > Beverly
> > > Beverly E. Barton, Ph.D.
> > > Assistant Professor
> > > Department of Surgery/Division of Urology
> > > UMDNJ-NJMS MSB G519
> > > 185 S. Orange Avenue
> > > Newark, New Jersey 07103
> > > Telephone 973-972-0662
> > > E-mail barto
...@umdnj.edu
> > > Telefacsimile 973-972-3892
> > > On Aug 20, 2004, at 2:25 PM, J. Paul Robinson wrote:
> > > > ummm....Mario says..
> > > > "In life sciences -- particularly in research life sciences --
> > > > probably 50 to 70% of research laboratories used
> > > > Macs"....while I have a passionate dislike for Windows......is
> > > > this really true ??? or is the key word there "used"?? (Ok...I
> > > > have put on my helmet and armor....waiting...)
> > > > paul
> > > >> For all of the mr groupies out there in cytometry cyberspace. Don't
> > > >> wet your
> > > >> pocket protectors over this.
> > > >> Honestly though, well deserved praise for Mario & the Tree Star group:
> > > >>
Apple - Science - Profiles - Dr. Mario Roederer
> > > >>> _______________________
> > > >>> Calman Prussin
> > > >>> Laboratory of Allergic Diseases
> > > >>> NIAID/ National Institutes of Health
> > > >> The information in this e-mail and any of its attachments is
> > > >> confidential
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> > > >> anyone who
> > > >> is not the original intended recipient. If you have received this
> > > >> e-mail in
> > > >> error please inform the sender and delete it from your mailbox or any
> > > >> other
> > > >> storage devices. The National Institute of Allergy and Infectious
> > > >> Diseases
> > > >> (NIAID) shall not accept liability for any statements that are the
> > > >> senders own
> > > >> and not expressly made on behalf of the NIAID by one of its
> > > >> representatives.
> > > > J.Paul Robinson, PhD PH
765)4940757
> > > > Professor of Immunopharmacology
> > > > Professor of Biomedical Engineering
> > > > Purdue University FAX
765)4940517
> > > > EMAIL:j
...@flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu
> > > > WEB:
http://www.cyto.purdue.edu
> > > > Have you seen our new HCS webpage?
> > > >
High Content Screening Website
> > Received on Wed Aug 25 13:58:00 2004
> > * This message: [ Message body ]
> > * Next message: WThrond
...@genencor.com: "Re: dr. mr. on Apple"
> > * Previous message: facs_copy: "Re: Sorting issues"
> > * In reply to: Beverly Barton: "Re: mr on Apple web site"
> > * Next in thread: Mario Roederer: "mac vs. pc"
> > * Reply: Mario Roederer: "mac vs. pc"
> > * Reply: Howard Shapiro: "Re: mr on Apple web site"
> > * Contemporary messages sorted: [ By Date ] [ By Thread ] [ By
> > Subject ] [ By Author ] [ By messages with attachments ]
> > This archive was generated by hypermail 2.1.8 : Fri Aug 27 2004 -
> > 03:12:05 EST
> > ***THE MENTION OF BD CYTOMETERS AND MORE MARKETING FOR FLOW JO **
> > MARIO
> > Randy T. Fischer**********
> > NIH/NIAMS
> > Mr. APPLE WEB SITE FLOW JO
> > ************************************************** **************************************
> > RE: mr on Apple web site
> > * This message: [ Message body ] [ More options ]
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> > [ Maybe in
> > reply to ]
> > From: Fischer, Randy (NIH/NIAMS) <fisch
...@mail.nih.gov>
> > Date: Mon Aug 23 2004 - 16:18:55 EST
> > Paul,
> > I know that for a long time, anyone who used a BD flow cytometer had
> > ***************
> > little
> > choice but to use a MAC-data acquisition required it. And, one of
> > the
> > best
> > third party software packages was FlowJo which only ran on a MAC.
> > *******************
> > Mario,
> > being a FlowJock, naturally was heavily exposed to this atmosphere.
> > However, most of our other laboratory instrumentation appears to run
> > on the
> > IBM clone type of PC-ELISA reader, luminometer, ELISpot reader, and
> > AFFYMETRIX machine to name the first ones that come to mind. Of
> > course,
> > because Flow is such a key component and FlowJo works so well, we
> > have
> > MACs
> > (and associated cinema displays) at all of our desks. So, Mario is
> > probably
> > pretty close as I guess we now run about 50% MAC, and for most things
> > they
> > do run better than our PCs for similar applications, but mostly the
> > two
> > platforms tend to be used for very disparate applications and we need
> > both.
> > Wish more science companies would move to MAC, but as Microsoft
> > probably
> > owns a minority share in most companies, that will not likely happen
> > in our
> > lifetimes.
> > Haven't read the article yet, but hopefully Mario remembered to cite
> > you for
> > all the work on the Flow website/mailing list.
> > Randy T. Fischer
> > NIH/NIAMS
> > Building 10, Room 6D50
> > 9000 Rockville Pike
> > Bethesda, MD 20892
> > (301) 594-3537
> > fisch
...@mail.nih.gov
> > Received on Tue Aug 24 16:18:00 2004
> > * This message: [ Message body ]
> > * Next message: Hans Jürgen Hoffmann: "SV: Any suggestion for
> > selection of ICAM-1 (CD54) antibody?"
> > * Previous message: J. Paul Robinson: "Re: mr on Apple web
> > site"
> > * Maybe in reply to: Prussin, Calman (NIH/NIAID): "mr on Apple
> > web
> > site"
> > * Contemporary messages sorted: [ By Date ] [ By Thread ] [ By
> > Subject ] [ By Author ] [ By messages with attachments ]
> > This archive was generated by hypermail 2.1.8 : Wed Aug 25 2004 -
> > 03:12:04 EST
> > PRISIDENT OF ISAC AND HEAD OF PURDUE CYTOMETRY DEPT J PAUL ROBINSON
> > PROVIDES MANY GRANTS TO TREESTAR. GRANTS INFORMATION WILL BE PROVIDED
> > AT END…
> > ****READ DO NOT WET YOUR POCKET PROTECTORS***ADDED LINKS TO WEBSITES
> > FOR FLOW JO
> > J.Paul Robinson, PhD PH
765)4940757> Professor of Immunopharmacology
> > > Professor of Biomedical Engineering
> > > Purdue University FAX
765)4940517
> > > EMAIL:j
...@flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu
> > > WEB:
http://www.cyto.purdue.edu
> > > Have you seen our new HCS webpage?
> > >
High Content Screening Website
> > Received on Tue Aug 24 16:18:00 2004
> > * This message: [ Message body ]
> > * Next message: Hans Jürgen Hoffmann: "SV: Any suggestion for
> > selection of ICAM-1 (CD54) antibody?"
> > * Previous message: J. Paul Robinson: "Re: mr on Apple web
> > site"
> > * Maybe in reply to: Prussin, Calman (NIH/NIAID): "mr on Apple
> > web
> > site"
> > * Contemporary messages sorted: [ By Date ] [ By Thread ] [ By
> > Subject ] [ By Author ] [ By messages with attachments ]
> > This archive was generated by hypermail 2.1.8 : Wed Aug 25 2004 -
> > 03:12:04 EST
> > ************************************************** ***************************-
> > ******************************************
> > I know that for a long time, anyone who used a BD flow cytometer had
> > little
> > choice but to use a MAC-data acquisition required it. And, one of
> > the
> > best
> > third party software packages was FlowJo which only ran on a MAC.
> > Mario,
> > being a FlowJock, naturally was heavily exposed to this atmosphere
> > ************************************************** ***************************-
> > ***************************************
> > For all of the mr groupies out there in cytometry cyberspace. Don't
> > wet> your
> > > > pocket protectors over this.
> > > > Honestly though, well deserved praise for Mario & the Tree Star group:
> > > >
Apple - Science - Profiles - Dr. Mario Roederer
> > ************************************************** ***************************-
> > ********************************************> > Honestly though, well deserved praise for Mario & the Tree Star group:
> > > >
Apple - Science - Profiles - Dr. Mario Roederer
> > ************************************************** ***************************-
> > **********************************************
> > CYTOMETRY SOFTWARE***PURDUE**Links to flow cytometry sites in the USA
> > and Canada (home of Mario Roederer and Steve Perfetto) home of J.
> > Paul
> > Robinson and ...
> > Perfetto, Steve (NIH/VRC) <perfe
...@mail.nih.gov>
> > ************************************************** ***************************¬*
> > GRANTS TROUGH *****PURDUE AND THE GOV. NIH FOR FLOW JO By J.Paul
> > Robinson
> > PRESIDENT OF ISAC 2007 -2008 AND BOARD MEMBER FOR A LONG TIME********
> > The Daily Dongle: - 2 visits - Nov 25
> > Rant about FlowJo's goings-on. ... NIH Funding. Another thread from
> > Purdue worth posting: .... I saw this question on Purdue mailing list
> > earlier today. ...
> > flowjo.typepad.com/the_daily_dongle/2007/06/index.html - 33k - Cached
> > - Similar pages - Note this
> > The Daily Dongle: Current Affairs
> > Rant about FlowJo's goings-on. ... NIH Funding. Another thread from
> > Purdue worth posting:. We are calling upon you again during this
> > Independence Day ...
> > flowjo.typepad.com/the_daily_dongle/current_affairs/index.html - 27k
> > -
> > Cached - Similar pages - Note this
> > [ More results from flowjo.typepad.com ]
> > This page under construction
PUCL Email Archive. Flow cytometry
> > analysis software: ...
Tetramer Facility Guide.
> > Ebioscience ...
www.immunology.utoronto.ca/research/resources/msb/fc.htm-27k -
> > Cached - Similar pages - Note this
> > The Daily Dongle: - 2 visits - Nov 25Rant about FlowJo's goings-
> > on. ... -the impact of cuts to grants already funded .... I saw this
> > question on Purdue mailing list earlier today. Since FlowJo ...
> > flowjo.typepad.com/the_daily_dongle/2007/06/index.html - 33k - Cached
> > - Similar pages - Note this
> > The Daily Dongle: Current Affairs - 12:10amRant about FlowJo's
> > goings-
> > on. ... For those of you not on Purdue, Joao Loureiro from Portugal
> > wrote: ... -the impact of cuts to grants already funded ...
> > flowjo.typepad.com/the_daily_dongle/current_affairs/index.html - 27k
> > -
> > Cached - Similar pages - Note this
> > Purdue Cytometry Mailing List: By Date - Nov 25Re: Physical
> > exhaustion
> > and immune system FlowJo Technical Support - Maciej Simm (Wed Mar 14
> > 2007 - 17:41:46 ..... Travel grants for young investigators, ...
www.cyto.purdue.edu/hmarchiv/Current/thread.htm-288k - Cached -
> > Similar pages - Note this
> > Purdue Cytometry Mailing List: By Date - 2 visits - Nov 25Re: Using
> > DIVA Exp Files in Flojo FlowJo Technical Support - Maciej Simm ......
> > Travel grants for young investigators, ImmunoRio2007
> > gharago
...@sums.ac.ir ...
www.cyto.purdue.edu/hmarchiv/current/index.htm-318k - Cached -
> > Similar pages - Note this
> > [ More results from
www.cyto.purdue.edu]
> > The Whitaker Foundation 1996 Annual Report - Grants ApprovedRESEARCH
> > GRANTS Auburn University Thomas S. Denney, Jr., .... State
> > University)
> > Becky Jo Ficek Rice University (B.S. Purdue University) Anne Marie
> > Findlay ...
www.bmes.org/WhitakerArchives/96_annual_report/grantsap.html-33k -
> > Cached - Similar pages - Note this
> > Vision now reality in Purdue's Discovery ParkThe park's Birck Center
> > has awarded $2.4 million in start-up grants for nine of those new
> > faculty .... V. Jo Davisson, (7865) 494-5238, davis
...@purdue.edu ...
www.purdue.edu/UNS/html3month/2004/040919.Rutledge.dispark.html-28k
> > - Cached - Similar pages - Note this
> > Testimony of JO ANNE GOODNIGHTThe development of the miniaturized
> > flow
> > probe marks the first time that anyone has ... Funding provided by an
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> > MAIL LIST (LINK)
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> > NON READABLE FCS 3 FILES COULTER FC 500 Flow Jo Discussion on Software
> > ERRORS and QUOTING FROM PAUL J ROBINSON HE DOES NOT KNOW IF THEY ARE
> > GOING TO FIX THE PROBLEM OVER THE MAIL LIST>> FLOW JO DISCUSSES
> > ****NEW BUILD OF SOFTWARE FOR CYTOMETRS
> > DOES COULTER KNOW? THIS IS COULTERS SOFTWARE USED IN THE FC 500
> > CYTOMETER?
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> > RE: Nonreadable FCS 3 files from Coulter FC 500 cytometer
> > * This message: [ Message body ] [ More options ]
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> > From: J. Paul Robinson <j
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> > Date: Fri Jun 04 2004 - 21:02:48 EST
> > We notified Coulter of the error in their software a
> > long time ago. I dont know if htey are going to fix it.
> > regards
> > paul robinson
> > On 3 Jun 2004 at 16:55, maciej simm wrote:
> > - Hide quoted text -
> > > We are currently working on adding the support of these files in the Windows
> > > version of FlowJo, and we notified Coulter of our findings in our efforts so
> > > far. There is a keyword $PnB which specifies the byte length for the parameter
> > > "n". In the LMD files in question, this value is seems to be interfering with
> > > the interpretation of this data by software which requires strict FCS
> > > compliance.
> > > I don't want to start a big debate over standards (ok, how about a medium
> > > one?) but life would be a lot easier for all FCS analysis software
> > > manufacturers if the data would be written in a consistent way by all
> > > manufacturers who develop acquisition software.
> > > I will post again once we've got a build of FlowJo for Windows that supports
> > > this format.
> > > I'm also looking forward to the utility Paul mentioned in an email earlier
> > > today. I couldn't find it on CD8, what is it called? I looked in the
> > > /content/software folder.
> > > Maciej Simm
> > > Tree Star Inc.
> > > Technical Support
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Tomas Kalina [mailto:tomas.kal
...@lfmotol.cuni.cz]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 4:13 AM
> > > > To: Cytometry Mailing List
> > > > Subject: Nonreadable FCS 3 files from Coulter FC 500 cytometer
> > > > Hello,
> > > > we are running a cooperative minimal residual disease study with people
> > > > using different platforms (BD and Coulter). For data analysis we want to
> > > > use a centraly designed templates made in Flow Jo software.
> > > > Unfortunately our colleague's Coulter-FC 500 cytometer is producing FCS
> > > > 3 files that are not readable by any other software (Flow Jo or
> > > > CellQuest).
> > > > The troubled instrument is Coulter FC 500 with the Cytomics RXP software. ********
> > > > Doeas anybody have a suggestion how to overcome the Coulter FCS 3 *****
> > > > incompatibility?
> > > > Thank you Tomas Kalina
> > > > --
> > > > Tomas Kalina,M.D.
> > > > Institute of Immunology
> > > > Charles University - 2nd Faculty of Medicine
> > > > tomas.kal
...@centrum.cz
> > > > fax (+420) 22443 5962
> > > >
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> > > > phone (+420) 22443 5968, (+420) 22443 5969, (+420) 22443 2084
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> > J.Paul Robinson, PhD PH
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> > Received on Mon Jun 7 14:18:00 2004
> > * This message: [ Message body ]
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> > from
> > Coulter FC 500 cytometer"
> > * Previous message: Michael Ormerod: "Flow Cytometry Course"
> > * In reply to: maciej simm: "RE: Nonreadable FCS 3 files from
> > Coulter
> > FC 500 cytometer"
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> > FLOW JO AND MARKET SHARE DISCUSSION VS BD
> > MARKET SHARE
> > *****************************MARKET SHARE DISCUSSION DOES BD KNOW?
> > ***********
> > ************************************************** ************************************************** **********************
> > Of course, what started this thread was the assertion in the piece
> > about
> > Mario on Apple's web site that there were 15,000 to 20,000 Mac-based
> > flow
> > cytometers out there. The best estimates I had from industry people
> > in
> > early 2003 when I was finishing up the 4th Edition of PFC was that
> > the
> > total number of systems from all manufacturers in use was under
> > 20,000. If
> > that's correct, BD would need a 75% market share to account for the
> > low end
> > estimate of 15,000 Mac-based machines. I'd be interested to know
> > where
> > the
> > 15,000 to 20,000 figure came from.
> > ************************************************** ***************************¬********************** *************************
> > Re: mr on Apple web site
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> > From: Howard Shapiro <h
...@shapirolab.com>
> > Date: Wed Aug 25 2004 - 18:15:38 ESTRobin Barclay wrote:
> > >Well .... some of us PC afficianados hate Macs just as much - personally I
> > >have hated them since they first made it difficult to access their DOS and
> > >write programs in any language (especially for accessing/controlling lab
> > >apparatus) - back in the '70's when there were several different options -
> > >not just PC's. I am glad that the "PC" became a standard (there were too
> > >many diferent systems) and that IBM did not hang on to it the way Apple kept
> > >the Mac in house (you get more for your money with a PC because many
> > >different people make them). You don't often get PC people knocking Macs
> > >the way that the Mac people knock PCs - there seems to be a lot of Microsoft
> > >paranoia. In my opinion PCs are much more common and versatile in labs than
> > >Macs - especially outside the USA - and will eventually become the standard
> > >for interfacing with lab equipment..... and they can "look cool" if you shop
> > >around for the right case if that's important to you.
> > I can't pass up the opportunity to get into the PC/Mac battle - I
> > hate
> > them
> > both, but there aren't really alternatives (yes, I know, there's
> > Linux, but
> > it's probably even harder to hook up a Linux system to hardware than
> > it is
> > to hook a Mac up to hardware).
> > Of course, what started this thread was the assertion in the piece
> > about
> > Mario on Apple's web site that there were 15,000 to 20,000 Mac-based
> > flow
> > cytometers out there. The best estimates I had from industry people
> > in
> > early 2003 when I was finishing up the 4th Edition of PFC was that
> > the
> > total number of systems from all manufacturers in use was under
> > 20,000. If
> > that's correct, BD would need a 75% market share to account for the
> > low end
> > estimate of 15,000 Mac-based machines. I'd be interested to know
> > where
> > the
> > 15,000 to 20,000 figure came from.
> > The old (68000 series and possibly early PowerPC) Macs were
> > difficult,
> > but
> > not impossible to connect to hardware; it was easier to work with the
> > PC's
> > ISA bus, which, while slow, was perfectly adequate to do most flow
> > cytometric data acquisition and analysis. There were decent versions
> > of
> > Forth, which was one of the first and best languages designed for
> > controlling hardware from mini- and microcomputers, for both PC (DOS)
> > and
> > the Mac (Forth was the first Mac programming language made
> > commercially
> > available, at a time when the only other option was buying the very
> > expensive Lisa from Apple on which to develop Mac software). I found
> > MacForth easier to program with than the Windows Forths (or other
> > Windows
> > languages, e.g., Delphi), but my old Macs used to crash all the time.
> > So what makes me unhappy with both Windows [and Windows machines] and
> > the
> > Mac in their current incarnations? It is now significantly harder for
> > mere
> > mortals to write software to get hardware to communicate with either
> > PCs or
> > Macs; the gain in complexity associated with the PCI bus, USB/USB2,
> > FireWire(IEEE 1394), etc. is greater than the gain in speed and
> > convenience. Also, in making the operating systems more stable (and
> > Win XP,
> > despite its security issues, is almost as stable as Mac's Unix-based
> > OS X),
> > both Microsoft and Apple elected to eliminate the ability of their
> > computer
> > hardware to respond rapidly to interrupts (latencies are now in the
> > tens of
> > thousands of instruction cycles), meaning that any really fast
> > hardware
> > attachment for either a PC or a Mac now needs to have a DSP in it,
> > whereas
> > if the fast interrupt response had been preserved, the hardware
> > attachments
> > could have been made much simpler and cheaper. Linux also takes fast
> > interrupt response off the table, so it doesn't represent a viable
> > alternative. If you go to Apple's web site and look at what data
> > acquisition hardware is available for Macs, particularly for Macs
> > running
> > OS X, there isn't much, and many of the companies that supported the
> > Mac in
> > that area have dropped Mac support for their newer products. That is
> > undoubtedly one big reason why BD's newer digital pulse processing
> > cytometers are running on the PC platform.
> > That doesn't stop anybody from analyzing FCS files on Macs. FlowJo is
> > well-conceived flow cytometry software; one reason it is as good as
> > it
> > is
> > is that it was written by people who do a lot of flow cytometry, and
> > cutting edge flow cytometry at that. But there are other people who
> > do
> > a
> > lot of good flow cytometry who have written good software, for PCs as
> > well
> > as for Macs.
> > For the record, I have a G4 PowerBook, which I use mostly for the
> > iLife
> > applications, which are slick. It doesn't crash more than once every
> > couple
> > of months, but the same is true of my Windows 2000 and XP systems. OS
> > X can
> > be as infuriating as Windows when one or another aspect of it goes
> > counter
> > to your intuition or to what you have gotten used to. Macs, while
> > somewhat
> > more expensive, are much better made than many PCs, and they are
> > certainly
> > aesthetically pleasing. If there were a reasonable alternative to
> > Microsoft's Office applications for the Mac, I might consider
> > switching.
> > The 12.1" PowerBook is a nice portable, but it's over a pound heavier
> > than
> > the Fujitsu laptop I now use, which has pretty much the same speed,
> > memory,
> > and drive capabilities (OK, not DVD-R, but I don't burn a lot of
> > DVDs).
> > However, I really wish Apple had stuck with the plan they had a few
> > years
> > back of writing a Mac operating system for Intel hardware. I think
> > that
> > died when Microsoft bailed Apple out with a few hundred mil. If it
> > were
> > possible to run OS X and XP mano a mano on the same hardware, there'd
> > be a
> > more rational basis for comparison. But, as may be the case for the
> > November election, minds, once made up, are not easily changed.
> > -Howard
> > Received on Thu Aug 26 16:38:00 2004
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> > HOW TO DEVELOP SOFTWARE? YOU CAN USE EXISTING COMMERCIAL PROGRAMS?
> > RESPONSE WITH FLOW JO ***ADAM TRIESTER TREESTAR/FLOW JO
> > ************************************************** ************************************************** **********************
> > You can use existing commercial programs (Aabel & JMP are nice
> > Mac 3D applications, and I'm sure there are others), or write it
> > yourself in OpenGL. I think OpenGL would be a better choice than C+
> > +.
> > OpenGL is a higher level graphics language, and knows how to access
> > the
> > specialized accelerators in the graphics cards, which are actually
> > faster for this stuff than the G5. That's how the dungeon games do
> > the
> > 3D shading and rendering.
> > I'll be happy to donate a considerable amount of code that I've done
> > in
> > this effort (most was taken from an old freeware program called
> > Rotator, which I no longer could find with Google, but I have
> > somewhere
> > in my archives), but we decided this was pretty much a dead end.
> > Rotator was in C, and quite unreadable. For the investment this task
> > would take, I think it'd be better to start over in OpenGL. It's
> > cross-platform too, which is important, as you'll find you want to
> > port
> > it to a Cray.
> > I'd still think you want to use FlowJo to read the DiVa files,
> > compensate them, transform them, gate them, and then export desired
> > subpopulations to the 3D viewer. If it were any other instrument,
> > you
> > could probably read the files yourself, with R or our free Java
> > libraries, but the DiVa files are a unique format, and almost always
> > require compensation and transformation to a lin/log scale, so
> > there's
> > a lot of work before you even get to viewing them.
> > ************************************************** ***************************-
> > ***********************************************
> > Re: 3D Graphics for flow data display
> > This message: [ Message body ] [ More options ]
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> > From: Adam Treister <a
...@treestar.com>
> > Date: Sun Jan 04 2004 - 13:48:24 EST
> > David,
> > We've tried on a couple of occasions to add a "spatial" 3D module to
> > FlowJo, and it has never turned out well enough to make it into a
> > release. We've found that using time as the third dimension, as in
> > our
> > "data movies," or using several 2D graphs, as in our "multi-graph
> > overlay" to be more practical solutions.
> > If you want smoothing or density coloring, that requires binning the
> > data. Even working at low resolution, you're looking at 256 times as
> > much time and memory to take the plot into an additional dimension.
> > You might get a tenfold performance increase with the G5 (which I
> > think
> > is quite optimistic, because the G5 adds fast floating point
> > processing, but binning is a integer operation), but even with that
> > that, adjusting a gate goes from taking perhaps a second to almost a
> > half minute. That would make using FlowJo feel like using CellQuest
> > (just kidding
At the full resolution of DiVa files, you're
> > looking
> > at another thousand fold increase over the 2D version, or a billion
> > times (1000 ^ 3) as long as we take to do it now. So, as best I
> > can
> > figure it, we can only support 3D at the cost of losing interactivity
> > with the data (ie, we can make the views, but changing gates or
> > parameters won't immediately change the 3D visualization).
> > It would be tough to have contours in 3D as each layer would obscure
> > the ones inside it. Contours would have to have varying opacity,
> > which
> > not only increases the computational time and complexity, but would
> > make it hard to differentiate populations. And the user interface
> > for
> > gating in space would be a real challenge. You could chop thru space
> > with planes, but that's 1D gating, which doesn't give you more
> > capability to define populations than you have now. So we'd have to
> > invent polyhedral gating.
> > If all you want to do is look at already-gated populations in 3D,
> > there
> > are options that exist. Expo32 has this feature, if you can figure
> > out
> > how to use Beckman Coulter (actually, ACS wrote it) software to view
> > BD
> > files. You can use existing commercial programs (Aabel & JMP are
> > nice
> > Mac 3D applications, and I'm sure there are others), or write it
> > yourself in OpenGL. I think OpenGL would be a better choice than C+
> > +.
> > OpenGL is a higher level graphics language, and knows how to access
> > the
> > specialized accelerators in the graphics cards, which are actually
> > faster for this stuff than the G5. That's how the dungeon games do
> > the
> > 3D shading and rendering.
> > I'll be happy to donate a considerable amount of code that I've done
> > in
> > this effort (most was taken from an old freeware program called
> > Rotator, which I no longer could find with Google, but I have
> > somewhere
> > in my archives), but we decided this was pretty much a dead end.
> > Rotator was in C, and quite unreadable. For the investment this task
> > would take, I think it'd be better to start over in OpenGL. It's
> > cross-platform too, which is important, as you'll find you want to
> > port
> > it to a Cray.
> > I'd still think you want to use FlowJo to read the DiVa files,
> > compensate them, transform them, gate them, and then export desired
> > subpopulations to the 3D viewer. If it were any other instrument,
> > you
> > could probably read the files yourself, with R or our free Java
> > libraries, but the DiVa files are a unique format, and almost always
> > require compensation and transformation to a lin/log scale, so
> > there's
> > a lot of work before you even get to viewing them.
> > I've promised you 3D graphs in FlowJo in the past, and I've done my
> > best to deliver them, but the results have been pretty
> > disappointing.
> > And the benefit of them has never been demonstrated. If you can show
> > us how 3D views provide more interpretable data than our current
> > "compromise solutions," that would help. If you want to pick a
> > data
> > file, we'll make you get a spinning, stereoscopic, 3D view of it. If
> > we find that other scientists are able to make conclusions about the
> > data better than they can from our existing visualizations, that will
> > go a long way towards bumping it up on the FlowJo future feature
> > list.
> > I hope that helps.
> > Adam
> > On Dec 31, 2003, at 8:38 AM, David Dombkowski wrote:
> > - Hide quoted text -
> > - Show quoted text -
> > - Hide quoted text -
> > > I am addressing this inquiry to all who may have suggestions as to
> > > software tools that will be of aid in achieving my goal.
> > > I wish to produce software for the Macintosh G5 computer running OS X
> > > that will allow for the display of 3 dimensional plots to aid in the
> > > analysis of 10 or more color data. Displaying this data in only 2
> > > dimensional plots is clearly limiting. My goal is to be able to
> > > display high resolution DiVa data in 3 dimensional plots that can be
> > > manipulated so as to allow for various viewing angles in real time.
> > > Memory will not be limited so that this will not be a limiting factor.
> > > I believe the best code for this software will be C ++.
> > > Please feel free to respond to this inquiry publicly so that we may
> > > have a discussion as well as collaboration on achieving this gaol. The
> > > time has come to develop this software and distribute freely among
> > > those who see the potential of such an application.
> > > David
> > > --
> > > David M. Dombkowski
> > > dombkow
...@helix.mgh.harvard.edu
> > > Flow Cytometry-Pathology-CNY rm7017
> > > Massachusetts General Hospital-East
> > > 149 13th Street
> > > Charlestown, MA 02129
> > > Tel (617)-726-1683
> > > Fax (617)-724-3164
> > Received on Mon Jan 5 13:58:00 2004
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> > VERITY SOFTWARE HOUSE INC. MARKITING AND SALES ON LIST
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> > Re: DNA analysis software
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> > From: Xiaoping Wu <xiaopi
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> > Date: Thu May 24 2007 - 17:04:13 EDT
> > We have Modfit 3.0 and our computer is installed with both OS 9 and
> > OS
> > X. We did not find problem with printing.
> > On May 23, 2007, at 2:33 PM, Turbov, Jane wrote:
> > - Hide quoted text -
> > > Hello Flow-ers,
> > > I would like to revisit the question of DNA analysis. We have ~ 12
> > > year old FacsCalibur and have just upgraded our system to Mac Os X. We
> > > had ModFit LT 2.0 installed previously. We are having problems
> > > installing Mac Classic but hopefully this will be resolved soon. From
> > > the Verity website, it appears that ModFit 3.0 can run off of Mac OS X
> > > but printing may be an issue.
> > >
Knowledge Base Detail
> > > Our lab manager suggested FLOJO
> > >
http://www.flowjo.com/specproliferation.htmlbutthis might be too
> > > sophisticated for our needs.
> > > Does anyone have any recommendations?
> > > Thanks,
> > > Jane Turbov
> > > Department of OBGYN Research
> > > ENH Research Institute
> > > 2650 Ridge Avenue
> > > Evanston, IL 60201
> > > TEL: 847-570-4021
> > > FAX: 847-733-5256
> > > From: VSH Tech Support [mailto:T
...@vsh.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 10:30 AM
> > > To: Cytometry Mailing List
> > > Subject: RE: DNA analysis software
> > > Hello Ibtissam,
> > > ModFit LT, for PC or Mac, has advanced modeling capability for
> > > research applications in DNA cell cycle analysis. You may use any of
> > > the model templates the program offers, or create your own models for
> > > non-traditional analysis, including non-mammalian DNA cell cycle
> > > studies. ModFit LT can be linked to our WinList program to provide a
> > > complete cell cycle analysis on any number of sub-populations with a
> > > single click of a button.
> > > For an overview, visit
http://www.vsh.com/products%a0.
> > > Best regards,
> > > Don
> > > Donald J. Herbert
> > > Technical Support Manager
> > > Verity Software House
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Ibtissam Abdul-Jabbar [mailto:iajab
...@cicr.uq.edu.au]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 11:41 PM
> > > To: cyto-inbox Subject: DNA analysis software
> > > Dear All, before buying software to analyse DNA on PC, I would like
> > > to get your opinion. I already have ModFit for Macintosh.
> > > What are you using and what do you recommend for research purposes.
> > > Is MultiCycle Av the one of choice?
> > > I appreciate your comments.
> > > Ibtissam A Jabbar (PhD)
> > > Manager of the FACS facilities
> > > Diamantina Institute for Cancer, Immunology and Metabolic Medicine
> > > (DI)
> > > The University of Queensland
> > > Level 4 R Wing
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> > > Ipswich Rd Buranda QLD 4102
> > > Australia
> > > Ph: 07 3240 5945
> > > Fax: 07 3240 5946
> > > Mob: 0401154744
> > Xiaoping Wu, Ph.D.
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> > Research Division of the Puget Sound Blood Center
> > 1201 Ninth Avenue
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> > ... Purdue Cytometry Mailing List: Analysis software for the Mac ...
> > programs divide into two price categories, the expensive (CellQuest,
> > MacLAS, FCAP List, and Verity's WinList for the Mac, not yet
> > released)
> > and the relatively ...
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> > 08 Sep 97
> > Find Similar
> > Highlight
> > EVERY SOFTWARE DEVELOPER AND CORPORATE OWNER ON THE MAIL LIST ABOVE
> > HAS LICENSE AGREEMENTS ON SOFTWARE…ALL SOFTWARE MUST BE LICENSED….
> > I DO NOT KNOW IF PURDUE GETS ROYALTIES FROM ALL THE PROVIDERS ABOVE
> > BUT THE MAIL LIST WAS UNDER TIGHT PROTECTION BY PAUL J. ROBINSON ISAC
> > PRESIDENT HEAD OF PURDUE CYTOMETRY
> > ************************************************** ************************************
> > KANECKI ASSOCIATES INC. INTRODUCED A NEW CYTOMETRY SOFTWARE WITH NO
> > LICENSE FEE AT A LOW COST TO HELP STUDENTS AND PROGRESS… THE SOFTWARE
> > IS THE ONLY SOFTWARE THAT DOES NOT USE COMPENSTAION AND CAN PROCESS 10
> > MILLION EVENT FILES BY 40 PARAMETERS.
> > *************NO LICENSE FEES AND ONLY $150.00 FOR STUDNETS!
> > *************
> > HERE IS HOW THE DISCOVERY OF THE MAIL LIST CAME ABOUT…
> > FLOW CYTOMETRY SOFTWARE DEVELOPER KANECKI ASSOCIATES INC. WAS CALLED
> > A
> > SCAM BY PERDUE J PAUL ROBINSON...THE STORY AND COVER UP THAT IS
> > WITHIN
> > THE SYSTEM..WILL THE TRUTH COME OUT?
> > KANECKI ASSOCIATES INC.INTRODUCES NEW FCS CYTOPRO QUICK FACS 11 TO
> > PERDUE UNIVERSITY ONLY TO BE INSULTED WITHOUT REASON... UNCOVER THE
> > SCANDLE THAT IS WITHIN THE SYSTEM AND SEE IF THERE IS A CHANCE FOR
> > REFORM? WILL IT EVER CHANGE? IT MUST COME TO A END
> > Nov 22, 2007 16:38
> > Flow Cytometry Software Developer Kanecki Associates Inc. Gets Called
> > A SCAM by PERDUE's J PAUL ROBINSON
> > Posted by cytometryuser
> > Kanecki Associates Inc. Was SHOCKED when J.Paul Robinson from PERDUE
> > called them SCAMMERS after being Questioned from the University about
> > the Response about his prior comment of them sending JUNK MAIL to his
> > Mail List...THE MAIL LIST seemed to be a very sensitive spot for Mr.
> > Robinson....
> > After a email was sent by a undisclosed source with a link providing
> > a
> > link to the MAIL LIST everything was uncovered FAST....The link was a
> > open door to a list of MAIL FROM a group of HIGH POWER
> > INDIVIDUALS...MOST...SOFTWARE PROGRAMMERS THAT DEVELOPED SOFTWARE
> > WHILE GETTING EDUCATED THROUGH PURDUE...
> > KANECKI ASSOCIATES INC. WOULD LIKE TO STATE THEY ARE NOT SCAMMERS NOR
> > DID THEY EVER ATTEMPT TO GET ON THE PERDUE MAIL LIST...They have
> > never
> > sent mail through the list but just tried to introduce the NEW
> > software that is distributed through C/net, Best Buy, Circuit City,
> > Simtel, and may other Major Down load sites.
> > To view the software JUST GOOGLE: FCS CYTOPRO QUICK FACS 11.
> > KANECKI ASSOCIATES INC. RELEASED THE NEW FCS CYTOPRO JAVA 6.0 FOR
> > DOWNLOAD TOO.
> > **********************WITH NO LICENSE
> > FEES******************************** AND REASONABLE PRICES THEY
> > DELIVER A SUPERIOR PRODUCT THAT PROCESS 10 MILLION EVENT FILES...FCS
> > 3.0
> > THEY DO NOT USE COMPENSATION LIKE OTHER SOFTWARE PROVIDERS SO THERE
> > IS
> > NO OVER COMPENSATION ISSUES........Further More there is NO MENUE BAR
> > which makes for USER FRIENDLY SOFTWARE...VERY EASY TO USE....JUST
> > PICK
> > AND CLICK.................................
> > SO TO PROVIDE THE TRUTH ALL POST THAT WILL BE SHOWN CAME DIRECTLY
> > FROM
> > SAVED EMAIL SENT TO PURDUE...IT WAS NOT SENT TO THE LIST BUT TO THE
> > HEAD OF PURDUE..
> > NOT MR.ROBINSON HE RECEIVED A CC...THEN RESPONDED BU CALLING IT JUNK
> > MAIL!
> > ORIGINAL MESSAGE SENT : TO ROBERT MURPHY WITH LINKS FOR
> > DOWNLOAD AND ALL INFORMATION PERTAINING TO FCS CYTORPO QUICK FACS 11
> > SOME HOW IT WAS FOWARDED TO: J PAUL ROBINSON...MAYBE FOR REVIEW...?
> > Fw: NEW FLOWCYTOMETRY SOFTWARE FOR ALL BD and Beckman/Coulter
> > Flow Cytometers CAN PROCESS 24,000 SAMPLES PER HOUR
> > Standard
> > Header|Full Message
> > View
> > mitchell haynes <buybro
...@yahoo.com>
> > ViewFriday,
> > September 28, 2007 1:36:36 AM
> > To:j
...@flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu
> > Cc:da
...@kanecki2.com
> > Cytopro
> > quick facs savings analysis.doc (82KB); Setup-Quick
> > Facs 11 Demo.exe (7854KB); FCS
> > CYTOPRO BENIFITS.doc (25KB)
> > Find:
> > Dear Robert Murphy
> > NEW
> > FLOWCYTOMETRY SOFTWARE FOR ALL BD and Beckman/Coulter Flow Cytometers
> > CAN
> > PROCESS 24,000-42,000 SAMPLES PER HOUR.
> > FLOW CYTOMETRY FCS CYTO PRO QUICK FACS
Kanecki Associates - The Future of Software Technology and World Leader in Intelligent Thinking Systems Management Government Military Intellectual Property
> > Increased quality and productivity. With 10,000,000 event files, you
> > can process 24,000 samples/hour, and maintain quality up to Sigma 5
> > or
> > better. Compare this to having your research technologist performing
> > only 100 samples/hour analysis.
> > Increased laboratory utilization by 3X because you can perform the
> > analysis off-lab and free laboratory time for reading samples. This
> > was achieved when I developed the program, and we had a program
> > project grant from 1992 to 1998 of $8M.
> > Works with FCS 3.0 in all data modes as floating point, integer*4,
> > and
> > ASCII.
> > Works with BD and Beckman/Coulter Flow Cytometers and Cell Sorters
> > Backwards compatible with FCS 2.0 files and Flow Cytometers and Cell
> > Sorters.
> > Can read FCS 3.0 files up to 10M events with 20 parameters.
> > Easy to Use, three step process. Load initial file, set gate, specify
> > file list to process. That's it.
> > Collaboration tools to allow you to cut and paste image results to
> > results.
> > Statistical analysis results imprinted on histogram plots directly as
> > mean, mode, and median with the ability to present results in log
> > mode
> > or linear mode, depending on the detector used.
> > Plain vanilla coding for easy update and maintenance to allow for the
> > greatest user and software quality.
> > One time purchase fee, no yearly renewal fees as with others.
> > Proven tract record in FACS, Fluorescent Activated Cell Sorter
> > Laboratory. The laboratory was rated the best laboratory in the
> > Midwest USA in 1990.
> > This application is designed for large-scale fluorescent activated
> > cell sorter
> > analysis. The program can read up to FCS 3.0 files and has been
> > tested
> > to run on Becton Dickinson and CoulterOrtho based flow cytometers and
> > cell sorters. The main advantage of this program is that you can have
> > the computer perform the analysis for you after you have selected the
> > region to analyze. The result is that up to 24,000 samples per hour
> > can be analyzed on a 1.4 GHz speed computer.
> > This program is designed for researcher and technologist use. It uses
> > rectangular gating, and is intuitive to use. To use this program, the
> > FCS must have the extension, *.bin as "54203023.bin" as an example.
> > The *.bin extension is what the computer uses to locate the files on
> > the computer.
> > THANK YOU FOR YOU TIME
> > MITCHELL HAYNES
> > VP
> > SALES
> > KANECKI
> > ASSOCIATES
> > 832-347-1669
> > THIS WAS J PAUL ROBINSON RESPONSE TO THE INFORMATION SENT
> > Re: Fw: NEW FLOWCYTOMETRY SOFTWARE FOR ALL BD and Beckman/Coulter
> > Flow
> > Cytometers CAN PROCESS 24,000 SAMPLES PER HOUR...Standard Header|Full
> > Message View J. Paul Robinson J. Paul Robinson ... ViewFriday,
> > September 28, 2007 9:37:32 AM To:mitchell haynes
> > Cc:da
...@kanecki2.com; skel
...@flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu
> > Steve
> > what is this email - it came to me with Bob Murphy's name associated
> > with it. It seems to be an advertisement, this junk mail, and it
> > seems
> > to have been modified by you ...
> > So I guess I am confused. was this sent to the list, or do you have
> > an
> > details about it - i am concerned about these junk messages going out
> > to
> > our members, - if they are using our lists, I will deal with them
> > appropriately, but I am not happy about this - any info you can give
> > me
> > appreciated
> > thanks
> > paul
> > WHILE BEING SHOCKED BY THIS MAIL...MITCHELL HAYNES VP.KANECKI
> > ASSOCIATES INC....WROTE BACK
> > : mitchell haynes <buybro
...@yahoo.com>
> > - Hide quoted text -
> > > To: skel
...@flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu
> > > Cc: skel
...@flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu
> > > Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 11:39:02 AM
> > > Subject: NOT A JUNCK MAIL STEVE WAS JUST FOWARDING INFORMATION TO PROPER
> > > CHANNELS
> > > Dear Paul,
> > > I recieved your responce to the email I sent. Please understand it is not
> > > junkmail but a update on new technology that will inhance all
> > > flowcytometers..It is currently being evaluated by BD who request for this
> > > software to be developed directly by our corporation.
> > > It was simply sent as an announcement for you concideration.
> > > The software is demonstrates precision and a higer processing rate than
> > > every existing software today.
> > > If you have any questions please call I provided my phone number with the
> > > email. I understand institutions of your caliber is always looking for new
> > > technology. Futhermoore this is the only software in the world that works
> > > for every platform on one peice of software
> > > Thank your for you time and have a great day.
> > > Please do not blame Steve for send the information to the proper channels
> > > I would think you would be upset if he did not foward important infomation
> > > that pertains to furthering cytometry breakthroughs.
> > > If you would like us to send information to another address that won't
> > > interfer please foward it to me and I will make sure that there are no
> > > more misunderstandings.
> > > Mitchell Haynes
> > <!--[if !supportLineBreakNewLine]-->
> > AFTER THAT MESSAGE J PAUL ROBINSON RESPONDED WITH OUT REASON!
> > - Hide quoted text ------ Original Message ----
> > From: "j
...@flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu"
> > <j
...@flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu>
> > To: mitchell haynes <buybro
...@yahoo.com>
> > Cc: j
...@flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu
> > Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 2:26:51 PM
> > Subject: Re: Fw: NOT A JUNCK MAIL STEVE WAS JUST FOWARDING
> > INFORMATION
> > TO
> > PROPER CHANNELS
> > Sorry, I think it is junk mail
> > regards
> > paul robinson
> > After this message Kanecki Associates Inc. JOINED many Forums in
> > which
> > the MESSAGES WITH THE NAME OF THE SOFTWARE AS RELAYED.....JUST ABOUT
> > ALL FORUMS DELETED INFORMATION POSTED ABOUT THE
> > SOFTWARE...FURTHERMOORE...BEING REMOVED AND BANNED FROM FORUMS....
> > VERY CONFUSED ABOUT ALL THE TALK OF OTHER SOFTWARE THE LAUNCHED
> > QUESTIONS ON YAHOO..?
> > WHY DO FORUMS ALLOW THE CONVERSATION OF ONE SOFTWARE AND NOT
> > ANOTHER..
> > WHY DO FLOW CYTOMETRY COMPANIES CHARGE LICENSE FEES?
> > THEN SOMEONE SENT A LINK TO THE PURDUE MAIL LIST BUT IT WAS NOT TO
> > THE
> > FRONT BUT BACK ROUTE..WHEN VIEWED ALL THE REASONS WERE EASY TO
> > SEE...........
> > J PAUL ROBINSON HAD A LOT OF POWER AND INFLUENCE IN THE FLOW
> > COMMUNITY...
> > FURTHER MOORE EVERY PROGRAMMER THAT HAS SOFTWARE ON THE MARKET WENT
> > TROUGH THE MAIL LIST SINCE 1992 AND ALL HAD THEIR OWN SOFTWARE FOR
> > SALE ON THE PERDUE SITE.....THE POST IN THE MAIL LIST ARE UNFILTERED
> > AND WERE******* NOT WHAT THE REST OF THE LIST HAD ACCESS TO...ONCE
> > POST STARTED GOING UP THE SITE WAS BLOCKED... SINCE THEN BOTH SITES
> > HAVE BEEN UP AND DOWN FOR THE MAIL LIST!
> > WITH THE MARKET BEING VERY SMALL IN FLOW SOFTWARE IT IS EASY TO
> > CONTROL....
> > KANECKI ASSOCIATES POSTED A BLOG WITH THE LINK TO THE BACK ROUTE TO
> > THE MAIL LIST AND GOT IMMEDIATE RESPONCE...
> > WHEN MITCHELL HAYNES DISCOVERED THE LINK HE STARTED POSTING THE
> > DISCOVERY UP ON MIS.HEALTH AIDS THROUGH :::GOOGLE::: AS FOR*****
> > GOOGLE*****IS THE ONLY SITE NOT FILTERING THE MAIL....
> > FINALLY A THE MESSAGES WERE SEEN AND SINCE THEY CAME FROM THE MAIL
> > LIST POSTINGS THEY WERE NOT PRETTY....
> > ALL FILES WERE DOWNLOADED
> > WHAT CAN KANECKI ASSOCIATES INC FCS CYTOPRO JAVA 6.0 DO? NO LICENSE
> > FEE
> > 0NLY $150.00 FOR STUDENTS 250.00 USD EVERYONE ELSE
> > ************************************************** ************************************************** *******************
> > POSTED BY MITCHELL HAYNES
> > IT IS NOT A SCAM OR JUNK MAIL PLEASE READ!
> > Written by David Kanecki, MBA, ACS, Bio. Sci.
> > November 25, 2007
> > Fcs cytopro quick Facs 6.0 java 14
> > The FCS Cytopro Quick Facs 6.0 Java allows the performance of
> > flow
> > cytometry analysis on computers or PC. This new technology allows for
> > utilization on Mac, Linux,
> > Solaris, and Windows with the same functionality and processing
> > speed.
> > It is designed to minimize the learning curve by doing away with a
> > confusing menu bar.
> > This new easy navigation process allows for any level of student,
> > technologist or researcher to perform flow cytometry analysis with
> > ease. The utilization time can be used inside or outside of the
> > lab.
> > Easy operation allows for greater efficiency and quality. This
> > translates into decrease in time and cost.
> > About 27% overall savings in flow cytometry experiments. So,Just
> > pick, click and go!
> > This program can read three of the four most common modes of the FCS
> > 3.O files, and is
> > Backward compatible with FCS 2.O and 1.O files
> > Equipped with advanced processing speeds allows rapid results, no
> > need to wait for your computer to think. When performing a batch mode
> > analysis, you can analyze about 24 to 42,000 samples per hour with
> > FCS
> > 2.0 files, and about 4,000 samples per hour with 1 million event by 9
> > parameters for FCS 3.O files. Also 10 million event by 25 parameter
> > FCS 3.0 file or a 10 million event FCS 2.0 and 1.0 files.
> > This FCS Cytopro Quick Facs Java 6.O is for large-scale and rare-
> > event analysis.
> > There is no Dongle, License fees, or restrictions for using the
> > software. The user can process the analysis where ever and whenever
> > necessary.
> > There are various features this program has to offer consisting of
> > analyzing dot plots, dual histograms , and descriptive statistics.
> > Easy to use just copy and paste the items into your report or paper.
> > This shows the result of a du
> > al, histogram analysis along with dual, descriptive statistical
> > analysis. The first histogram is in red, and the second is in blue.
> > The first, descriptive
> > analysis gives the information for the red histogram, and the second
> > descriptive analysis,
> > below the first, gives the information for the blue histogram. Also,
> > in the result box, see the two files listed along with their
> > checksums. The checksum is a measure that allows you to monitor the
> > correctness of a file. If a file is the same as the last time, its'
> > checksum will be the same. If the file is different, same size, but
> > different data, then its' checksum will be different:
> > Conclusion
> > Without a dongle, license fees and excessive time wasted educating
> > to
> > on software usage, Kanecki Associates Inc will save the world
> > millions.
> > There will be no need for large seminars and wasted time on how to
> > utilize software and more time to study important issues. Students
> > can
> > learn without fear of being able to afford the software. For only one
> > hundred and fifty dollars USD. for students. Yes you can own it.
> > There
> > is no license fees.
> > If you are not a student the cost is only two hundred and fifty
> > dollars USD .So why lease your software from the lab at thirty
> > dollars
> > per hour? Within five hours of leasing software from you lab at 30
> > dollars per hour you could be at home relaxing and working on you PC.
> > If you are not a student the cost is only two hundred and fifty
> > dollars. Never a license fee or dongle. You can take it or leave it,
> > where ever you like!
> > The FCS Cytopro Java 6.0 program allows you to analyze large
> > sample
> > sets
> > quickly, easily, and with high-quality and precision. In addition,
> > it
> > can analyze large data
> > set files of up to 10 million events and 25 parameters for use in
> > rare-
> > event analysis or
> > kinetic based experiments. This program is designed so that it is
> > easy to use, and this ease
> > of use and accuracy translates into high productivity and cost
> > savings, about 27% overall
> > in flow cytometry cost.
> > New technology breaking down the walls developed by Dr. David
> > Kanecki,
> > No it is not a Scam or Junk mail! It is high tech software at a
> > reasonable price.
> > Free trial down load so there is nothing to loose
> >
http://www.kanecki.comhttp://www.flowcytometrysoftware.com
> > direct download link for free trial
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> > FCS Cytopro Java 6.0 Script (c) 2007 By D. Kanecki, All Rights
> > Reserved
> > Mi
...@Kanecki.com
> > WHAT PEOPLE SAY ON THE MAIL LIST ABOUT THE PRICE AND LICENSE FEES FOR
> > SOFTWARE!
> > FACS-software
> > * This message: [ Message body ] [ More options ]
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> > in thread ] [ Replies ]
> > From: Yuecel, Raif <Raif.Yue
...@pmintl.com>
> > Date: Wed Nov 02 2005 - 06:32:42 EST
> > Dear FACS-experts,
> > I need the opinion of the specialist:
> > I need FACS-software for PC and had decided for FlowJO. I know the
> > mac-version of FlowJO. Indeed, this is very expensive.
> > Now, I was asked to get a comparative offer. Therefore, I thought
> > about
> > WinList. This is much cheaper. But I have no experience with WinList.
> > My question to the experts:
> > 1. What are the advantages and disadvantages of both software?
> > Question of the business & finance department, which are also
> > entitled:
> > 1. Why is FlowJo so expensive, if you need several licence?
> > 2. Why FlowJo and not WinList, because WinList much cheaper?
> > Thanks very much for the help !
> > Best regards
> > Raif
> > -----------------------------
> > Dr. Raif Yuecel
> > PHILIP MORRIS Research Laboratories GmbH
> > Fuggerstrasse 3
> > D-51149 Koeln
> > Germany
> > Phone +49 2203 303 486
> > Fax +49 2203 303 362
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> > ***********************************************
> > THIS REPLY FROM MITCHELL HAYNES KANECKI ASSOCIATES INC.
> > WHAT PURDUE DID NOT WANT YOU TO KNOW....
> > FCS CYTOPRO JAVA 6.0 FREE TRIAL DOWN LOAD
> > $150.00 STUDENTS
> > NO LICENSE FEES
> > FCS 3.0
http://www.kanecki.com/flowF.htmlhtt...rysoftware.com
> > ************************************************** **************************************WHAT
> > DO THE STUDENTS HAVE TO DEAL WITH AND SAY?
> > Purdue University Cytometry Laboratories - Flow cytometry
> > confocal ...... please go to the rippoff website above and make your
> > complaint and register. ... J. Paul Robinson, Ph.D., Director PUCL,
> > 1203 W. State St., Purdue ...
www.cyto.purdue.edu/flowcyt/rebates.htm?institutionId=694&meetingId=218
> > - 8k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this
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> > Form Approved by University Counsel, M.A.R., _1/5/98_
> > USER DIRECTORIES:vcr:stipswor:Software Lic:distlpol
> > APPENDIX A
> > to
> > "POLARIS" SOFTWARE LICENSE AGREEMENT
> > (INCLUDING LIMITED NON-COMMERCIAL DISTRIBUTION RIGHTS)
> > UNIVERSITY OF ILLINOIS
> > Identification of Licensed Software
> > Title: POLARIS
> > Version Number: All versions provided to Licensee under license
> > from
> > the University
> > Creator(s): David Padua, Jay Hoeflinger, Paul Petersen, Rudolf
> > Eigenmann, William Blume, Keith Faigin, Peng Tu, and Steven
> > Weatherford
> > Responsible Unit(s): Department of Computer Science (formerly
> > Center
> > for Supercomputing Research and Development)
> > Description : Polaris is a source-to-source Fortran restructurer. It
> > parses Fortran programs and represents them internally using a
> > hierarchy of classes. Polaris contains analysis modules to identify
> > dependences, private data, reductions, and induction variables. It
> > also contains a code generation phase that targets parallel Fortran
> > extensions used by shared-memory machines.
]
.....J PAUL ROBINSON 
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