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Ok republicans, lets have a little chat.... (Long question)?
Old 10-07-2009, 04:03 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Ok republicans, lets have a little chat.... (Long question)?

In Obama's latest numbers, his rise to a 56 % approval rating includes more people approving of all of his policies including HC and a rise in support among independents and republicans.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hUOSaKy9FQJe8FdjyLRLQxJ4Z-sAD9B5SRC01

Now that we've established that Obama's numbers are no longer falling, lets look a little deeper. If there is any issue that would destroy the current president, it's health care. That's the most divisive issue in this country since vietnam, and I think we can agree on that much.

But as you can see, Obama's approval is back on the climb during this most divisive issue. And now as this HC debate draws to a close, we are left with one pice of knowledge. That once signed, this divisive issue dies for three years. That is becuase it doesn't go into effect until 2013. So once signed, we start talking about something else.

If Obama has fielded the most divisive issue there could possibly be and still maintains relativly high numbers, then, what secondary issue do you expect to drive him down? Face it, the economy is improving (employment is always last to recover) and with the moderates on both sides of the aisle negotiating down the cost of the HC plan, there will be no serious inflation, and within a few years, the war will most likely be drawing to a close.

This said, what could possibly cost Obama re-election. I'm predicting a repeat of 1996, where the economy is good, the campaign is relatively issueless, and people see no reason to vote out the incumbent.

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Old 10-07-2009, 04:04 AM   #2 (permalink)
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There are several issues that will cause trouble for Obama in the 2012 race. Health care is one, but his missteps in foreign affairs is another huge issue.

The economy is, of course, a prime issue. Dems in the midwest are turning on him, due to his lack of aid to the economy, which is why they voted for him in the first place. We saw the first of this tide, after Cap & Trade, when people were flat-out stating that they voted him in to help the economy, not the environment.

His numbers will fluctuate, throughout his term.
It is extremely naive & short-sighted to think that this is a permanent move into the positive approval range.

It is important to keep in mind that in the long run, his stimulus will negatively impact the economy, and his devaluing of the dollar will hit home - thereby losing him support when he comes up for reelection.

He's a one-termer.
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Old 10-07-2009, 04:04 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I don't argue with libtards... It's a waste of my time and I have better things to do.
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Old 10-07-2009, 04:04 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Obama has hardly received the backing of House DINOs on the health care issue. There are no bi-partisan politics going on here; it's either Obama's way or the highway. Lowering costs is nothing but a good thing but I doubt many will support the public option. Who honestly wants to pay for their healthcare and someone else's. As for the war dying down, the ground leaders are asking for a troop surge in Afghanistan. And as for the economy, it's showing some signs of improvement but nothing to get excited about. If he were running for reelection today, he'd lose or just squeak by the Republican opponent. A 56% approval rating means that a little more than half the country supports him. I'm sure it will go down again.
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Old 10-07-2009, 04:05 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Nice one Polly.

When you can't contribute a half ass intelligent answer you just leave a stupid trolling answer.

If Obama manages to turn things around for the better regarding the economy, war, and health reform I see no reason why we should vote out a successful president.

I'm not sure I'm seeing it happen though. Obama's goal is too ambitious he's trying to complete all his gaols as president in just a few months and it's way to much for Americans to handle right now. He's got a 4 year term, he needs to slow down and see how much money we have flowing in at the end of each fiscal year before we take on huge reform.
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Old 10-07-2009, 04:07 AM   #6 (permalink)
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SNL Obama Address
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mL3QeUF6CKQ

In case you haven't seen it.
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Old 10-07-2009, 04:07 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Face it, the economy is improving? Apparently I'm not the one having trouble facing reality.
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Old 10-08-2009, 04:03 AM   #8 (permalink)
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"medical insurance is the most divisive issue
in this country since vietnam" <=weeeeird huh?


i think no matter what the issue would have been, the tea party folks would have made the exact same fuss

"a democrat won!"
*cry *sniff
"...and he's black!"
*sob



*sitting back watching conservatives self-combust
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Old 10-08-2009, 04:06 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Well you love Obama fine. I love America and what has made our country great. Why must these things be juxtapose?
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This isn't a question, its a wish. Your premises are selectively chosen and the interpretation is flawed. Lets begin with your incorrect assumption that Obama's approval rating is a sustainable trend. IT'S NOT. Then your incorrect assumption that the most divisive issue is Health Care. WRONG. It's unemployment. And he cannot buy his way out of it. It is growing and is and will continue to be his Achilles heel. Another false premise is that the economy is improving. It's not. The best you can say is that is stable. 9 months ago congress said we were three hours away from complete collapse. And we are going to spend our way out of recession? There is no example of this policy working anywhere in the world at any time. One well placed WOMD and oil will be $300 a barrel. Add in, wait until those unemployment benefits run out and there are no jobs.

We are printing money at an unprecedented pace, they are talking about changing the currency tied to oil, China has greater and greater leverage on our monetary stability by the day, a trillion for stimulus, a trillion for bailouts, a trillion for socialized medicine, a trillion for highways and bridges. And we are suppose to take your statement that there is no immediate threat of inflation seriously? Sorry, but you clearly have not thought this through completely.

You seem to be missing what is occurring in the world. Your wish may come true, but I think you would have better luck finding a lamp on a beach and rubbing really really hard
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