Thread: Rival Fire Friday: Why do Christian Creationists lie about what biologists mean by....?

They don't disagree with that. They just don't understand that they use the same exact mechanism, so that the only difference is time.Basically, they believe in steps, but ask for proof that a staircase is possible.

You think you're so smart, just because you know things and are able to reason clearly about them. What you seem to have forgotten is that if you didn't know anything and weren't able to reason clearly, you'd have to lie just like creationists do. Think about it.

they want to convince people that the main difference between the terms is the degree of supporting evidence for them. in particular concerning the pattern of evolution, they want to say "what pattern". i can't say for sure why they do that, but i suspect it's because they think that something else happened - divine special creation of "kinds" perhaps? - that seems more plausible to them, somehow.

Evolution and Creation are both religious. Its not Science vs. Religion. You need faith to believe in one or the other. I've noticed that scientist like to erase the line between theory and fact. You say allele frequencies in population over time, but show proof how one species can change into another. It was never been seen or tested, its a theory, a fairy tale for grown ups. Yes it's obvious that things change where are the fossils and why has it stopped today?

Why are micro and macro-evolution lumped together..one is observable, repeatable and testable (micro) and one is not (macro)Richard Dawkins seemed to acknowledge that evolution is unobserved history when he said that "Evolution has been observed. It's just that it hasn't been observed while it's happening."Has evolution above the species level ever been directly observed or experimentally tested and verified?http://www.conservapedia.com/Definitions_of_evolution