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...case? Snopes said it wasn't true but then I find out that Barack was indeed born in Kenya. Then adopted by his stepfather in Indonesia so that he could go to school, only thing was he had to be an indonesian national.
This is why I now question who Barack is,
A local newspaper article as follows
PHILADELPHIA, Penn. – On Aug. 21, in an effort to prevent what might otherwise amount to the biggest fraud pulled off on the citizens of the United States, Attorney Philip Berg filed a complaint in U.S. District Court against Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., and the Democratic National Committee over Obama’s eligibility to hold the office of president of the United States.Berg, a registered Democrat and former chair of the Montgomery County, Penn. Democratic Party, filed the lawsuit when the only document, a Hawaiian certificate of birth, produced as proof of Obama’s citizenship was determined by a forensic graphic specialist to be an altered and forged document.
To ensure Obama’s eligibility, as per Article II, Section I of the U.S. Constitution, to serve as president of the United States, Berg served the defendants with a request for production of documents and requests for admissions to be produced on or before Sept. 24.
Instead of responding to Berg’s request, the defendants filed a motion to dismiss.
On Oct. 6, Berg said he received a phone call from Attorney John P. Lavelle, Jr., counsel for Obama and the DNC, requesting a stay of discovery pending the judge’s decision on the motion to dismiss.
When Berg declined his request, Lavelle filed a motion for a protective order to preclude his clients from having to respond to the admissions or produce the requested documents.
In his objection to Lavelle’s motion, Berg argued, “Plaintiff and citizens of the United States should never be left with questions regarding the eligibility or ineligibility of any presidential candidate. If these issues are not dealt with urgently we are at grave risk of a United States Constitutional Crisis.”
Asserting Obama and the DNC would not be prejudiced if ordered to comply with the discovery, Berg stated, “Moreover, if Obama can prove he is currently a U.S. ‘natural born’ citizen and that he is in fact eligible to serve as president of the United States then Obama and the other defendants would benefit as they would be able to put the citizenship issues to rest.”
Through extensive investigation, Berg said he learned Obama was born at Coast Hospital in Mombasa, Kenya located in Coast Province.
While it is undisputed Obama’s father was a citizen of Kenya and his mother was a U.S. citizen, the laws on the books at the time of Obama’s birth required the U.S. citizen parent to have resided in the United States for ten years, five of which were after the age of 14, to convey citizenship.
His mother was only 18 at the time Obama was born in Kenya and therefore was not old enough to register Obama’s birth in Hawaii as a “natural born” citizen.
Obama’s mother later married Indonesian citizen Lolo Soetoro, who, according to Berg, either signed a government form legally “acknowledging” Obama as his son or “adopted” Obama, either of which would have changed Obama’s status to a citizen of Indonesia.
Soetoro was listed as Obama’s father on school registration documents where Obama was registered under the name Barry Soetoro as an Indonesian citizen.
Berg says there was no other way Obama could have attended school in Jakarta, Indonesia, since Indonesia was under tight rule and a Police State, did not allow foreign students to attend their public schools and those who registered were verified through the Indonesian government.
In pointing out the urgency of Obama’s citizenship status being resolved prior to his being elected president, Berg said once Obama is sworn into the United States Office of the Presidency, neither he nor the general public will have the right to bring suit for redress as a result of all the immunities the president carries, adding, “thus the plaintiff and general public will be further harmed as they will be forced to live with the grave consequences.”
The documents requested by Berg to be provided by Oct. 15 include a certified copy of Obama’s vault (original long version) birth certificate; certified copies of all reissued and sealed birth certificates of Obama in the names referred to in the caption of the lawsuit (Barack Hussein Obama, Barry Soetoro, Barry Obama and Barack Dunham); certified copy of Obama’s Certification of Citizenship; certified copy of Obama’s Oath of Allegiance taken upon age of majority; certified copies of Obama’s application and admission forms for Occidental College, Columbia University and Harvard Law School; and certified copies of any court orders or legal documents changing Obama’s name from Barry Soetoro to Barack Hussein Obama.
Additionally, Berg requested the court to order Obama to respond to the following admissions: Admit you were born in Kenya; yo
This is why I now question who Barack is,
A local newspaper article as follows
PHILADELPHIA, Penn. – On Aug. 21, in an effort to prevent what might otherwise amount to the biggest fraud pulled off on the citizens of the United States, Attorney Philip Berg filed a complaint in U.S. District Court against Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., and the Democratic National Committee over Obama’s eligibility to hold the office of president of the United States.Berg, a registered Democrat and former chair of the Montgomery County, Penn. Democratic Party, filed the lawsuit when the only document, a Hawaiian certificate of birth, produced as proof of Obama’s citizenship was determined by a forensic graphic specialist to be an altered and forged document.
To ensure Obama’s eligibility, as per Article II, Section I of the U.S. Constitution, to serve as president of the United States, Berg served the defendants with a request for production of documents and requests for admissions to be produced on or before Sept. 24.
Instead of responding to Berg’s request, the defendants filed a motion to dismiss.
On Oct. 6, Berg said he received a phone call from Attorney John P. Lavelle, Jr., counsel for Obama and the DNC, requesting a stay of discovery pending the judge’s decision on the motion to dismiss.
When Berg declined his request, Lavelle filed a motion for a protective order to preclude his clients from having to respond to the admissions or produce the requested documents.
In his objection to Lavelle’s motion, Berg argued, “Plaintiff and citizens of the United States should never be left with questions regarding the eligibility or ineligibility of any presidential candidate. If these issues are not dealt with urgently we are at grave risk of a United States Constitutional Crisis.”
Asserting Obama and the DNC would not be prejudiced if ordered to comply with the discovery, Berg stated, “Moreover, if Obama can prove he is currently a U.S. ‘natural born’ citizen and that he is in fact eligible to serve as president of the United States then Obama and the other defendants would benefit as they would be able to put the citizenship issues to rest.”
Through extensive investigation, Berg said he learned Obama was born at Coast Hospital in Mombasa, Kenya located in Coast Province.
While it is undisputed Obama’s father was a citizen of Kenya and his mother was a U.S. citizen, the laws on the books at the time of Obama’s birth required the U.S. citizen parent to have resided in the United States for ten years, five of which were after the age of 14, to convey citizenship.
His mother was only 18 at the time Obama was born in Kenya and therefore was not old enough to register Obama’s birth in Hawaii as a “natural born” citizen.
Obama’s mother later married Indonesian citizen Lolo Soetoro, who, according to Berg, either signed a government form legally “acknowledging” Obama as his son or “adopted” Obama, either of which would have changed Obama’s status to a citizen of Indonesia.
Soetoro was listed as Obama’s father on school registration documents where Obama was registered under the name Barry Soetoro as an Indonesian citizen.
Berg says there was no other way Obama could have attended school in Jakarta, Indonesia, since Indonesia was under tight rule and a Police State, did not allow foreign students to attend their public schools and those who registered were verified through the Indonesian government.
In pointing out the urgency of Obama’s citizenship status being resolved prior to his being elected president, Berg said once Obama is sworn into the United States Office of the Presidency, neither he nor the general public will have the right to bring suit for redress as a result of all the immunities the president carries, adding, “thus the plaintiff and general public will be further harmed as they will be forced to live with the grave consequences.”
The documents requested by Berg to be provided by Oct. 15 include a certified copy of Obama’s vault (original long version) birth certificate; certified copies of all reissued and sealed birth certificates of Obama in the names referred to in the caption of the lawsuit (Barack Hussein Obama, Barry Soetoro, Barry Obama and Barack Dunham); certified copy of Obama’s Certification of Citizenship; certified copy of Obama’s Oath of Allegiance taken upon age of majority; certified copies of Obama’s application and admission forms for Occidental College, Columbia University and Harvard Law School; and certified copies of any court orders or legal documents changing Obama’s name from Barry Soetoro to Barack Hussein Obama.
Additionally, Berg requested the court to order Obama to respond to the following admissions: Admit you were born in Kenya; yo